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Author: Rib_Tiggler Timestamp:- 23/7/2005 7:42:46 PM Subject: Bennet's Green Today
Message: i must say I was a little dissapointed in today's Monash. Before the race Mr Stapleford told stewards he was concerned with the horses action and wanted him scratched. None the less the horse was passed fit to run. Crossed to the front, weakened and ran 3rd last. I'd say although the vets are more than qualified to make such a judgement that the trainer would know the horse best and should have been listened to.
Author: Rib_Tiggler Timestamp:- 25/7/2005 11:18:11 AM Subject: Re: Bennet's Green Today
Message: I didn't back it. If you have a look at my tip in Pinkline's Tipping Column I gave Super Elegant as my selection. I was making an observation.
Message: What are you on about tiger? I tipped Super Elegant. What I posted was actually a question asked by the trainer Albert Stapleford. Is he a mug too?
Message: It was vetted twice after trainer requested it. Once before hand, and once up at the barriers. It is possible that the horse was slightly sore walking around but then seemed to walk out of it. The trainer then vetted it before hand: no problems. The second time at the barriers was to make sure the horse didn't pull up sore straight after the warmup.
Final story the horse was passed fit to run twice!, therefore there should be no complaints.
Message: Ribby you just don't seem to get the point. The trainer was silly eneough to even nominate Bennet's Green. It had no-hope of taking on Super E, Wildly and Dilly Dally.
He nominted the horse and was accepted. Now by rules of racing unless someone can come up with a reasonable excuse and this excuse is proven to be correct and eneough to either effect the horse or jockeys safety then it is very highly unlikely that the stewards will allowing the scratching.
And since when have trainers not complained about stewards?
Author: Rib_Tiggler Timestamp:- 27/7/2005 1:06:13 AM Subject: Re: Bennet's Green Today
Message: Ha, that is laughable. So what you are trying to tell me is just because a horse has no hope of winning a race that it should be treated any differently to one that does have a winning hope?
And oh..... Ferguson, I'm glad that you have finally resigned to the fact that I didn't actually tip Bennett's Green!
Author: Rib_Tiggler Timestamp:- 27/7/2005 1:16:37 AM Subject: Re: Bennett's Green Today
Message: Lol, what do you know about Rules Of Racing Trackrider? The point im making is, it does not matter how much of a chance a horse has in the race! There arent seperate rules for each horse depending on wether they are going to get near Super Elegant or not hahahaha! Wether it be an odds on or 50/1 pop you fool. I'm not saying that BG ran so bad because the animal was injured. HA, and Ferg thinks I was speaking out of my pocket when I tipped Super Elegant in the forum. Of course BG was never going to get near them! BUT! If a trainer says that his horse is not walking right he should be listened to, he sees the beast everyday and if something doesn't look right then it obviously isn't right. Question I ask is if everything was ok the first time then why did they vet the horse AGAIN? Was it because the horse was sound?
Message: Isn't it funny how after Bennett's Green's win the week before, he was meant to be put out for a spell. That was the word straight after the race (quoting Roy Higgins).
Trainer decides he wants another bite of the carrot, nominates him for the Monash, and then wants to scratch on race day.
Is this just a case of being given a slice of cheese and wanting the whole wheel? I think so. If the vets couldn't find problems, well, what more do you want to do?
Scratching the horse because the trainer says he wants it scratched when the vets can't find an injury is one way to bring the integrity of racing into question yet again.
And Ribby, I seem to remember on another thread where you told me to stop whining. Do the same.
Author: infidel Timestamp:- 27/7/2005 10:36:00 AM Subject: Re: Bennet's Green Today
Message: What if it was Super Elegant's trainer and SE ran last?
What are the rules? If you are sure there is something wrong with your horse before the race, you know every inch of your horse's health and habits, are you obliged to defer to the judgement of the club vet, who wouldn't know your horse from a bar of soap, and gives it a 60 second once over?
I just dont know how you could be disappointed with the run unless you thought he would run a place.
I would also appreciate it if you happened to once again send me a message to my inbox, please keep yourself from using abusive, violent language. It really isnt nescessary, if you have something to say, keep it on this thread.
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