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Author: Dragon Timestamp:- 28/3/2003 12:02:55 AM Subject: Eating Humble Pie
Message: Well i have to say i was wrong about Freeze, was told from a pretty reliable source that this was the best of the Waterhouse two year olds and backed it accordingly, and you guys haven't missed putting the boot in which is okay if i dish it out i am big enough to cop it as well.
One thing i won't retract is my statement about Grand Armee to do what this horse did at his sixth start was amazing (can someone please tell me why Cassidy didn't pull it out at the top of the straight) He is a superstar and look out if he makes the doncaster field he will give it a big shake.
Predictions for the big races this Autumn from myself are :-
Golden Slipper : Legally Bay Doncaster : Grand Armee Derby : Fine Society Oaks : Fine Society Sydney Cup : Carnegie Express
Now instead of bagging me why don't you so called experts give me your fearless predictions!!!
Author: catweazle Timestamp:- 28/3/2003 11:44:39 AM Subject: Re: Eating Humble Pie
Message: Dragon,
Bring the best 2YO in the Waterhouse stable this year may not count for a whole lot.
Somebody should make a tape of all Jim Cassidy rides in feature races over the last 12 months and use them for training of apprentices. He is going terrible at present, how many times can he slaughter Secret Land?
My fancies at present are:
Slipper: Roedean/Niello Doncaster: Defier Derby: StReims/Helenus Oaks: Ribe/Fine Society Syd Cup: Some midweeker, not too interested.
Author: Da G Show Timestamp:- 28/3/2003 2:23:12 PM Subject: Re: Eating Humble Pie
Message: Muiry
I was unaware of any setback but i notice that shower is nominated for 3yo fillies classic at kembla wednesday....you're not switching trams are you and "hyping" the other filly now.
Could you please continue to post your hype lists via the black book thread.
i am not bagging your judgement. I just want to see how many "next big things" you can possibly declare in a season!
Author: Da G Show Timestamp:- 28/3/2003 4:14:11 PM Subject: Re: Eating Humble Pie
Message: "At least I have the guts to make predictions."
Actually Muiry i make predictions every time I place a bet with my bookie...I just choose not to share them with you cause quite simply what's in it for me? it has nothing to do with intestinal fortitude!
Of course i could put in some longer term prognostications as provided at the start of the thread, but my point is you flap across this site like a kid in a toy store who "discovers" a new play thing every 5 seconds.
In this case you've jumped camps! 7-8 weeks ago you made statements to the effect (and i'm sure they could be easily dug up - hint anyone) that Shower of Roses would win the Oaks "full stop", now along comes the next big thing in fine society and Shower of roses is in the same pile as yesterdays papers - outta sight outta mind.
we all read the results and see the videos. you're not pointing out anything new!
Author: Mama Cass Timestamp:- 28/3/2003 8:41:06 PM Subject: Re: Eating Humble Pie
Message: I think J.Cassidy has a problem with strength in his hands or all of his arm. He didnt ride Bulla Borghese all that good last two starts. Waiting to see how she goes with H. Bowman tomorrow. Could be the one to watch for Easter Races.
Author: muirfield Timestamp:- 29/3/2003 9:58:17 AM Subject: Re: Eating Humble Pie
Message: Da G,
If you don't like reading my posts don't.
I like hearing others talk about horses so I do the same. I've certainly learnt from others.
I thought it would be petty clear that having the guts to make predictons refered to posting on this site.
Guts because of people like you just hanging for those prediction to stuff up so you can point it out. But not a word when the prediction or tips come off.
I couldn't care less.
You should really think about reading more carefully. You say re Shower of Roses "out of sight out of mind"? Hello? Did you not understand that I rate her equally to the filly who came out and smashed the colts in the Guineas? Didn't you understand that I was troubled by her set back and the fact that she won't have raced for at least 4 weeks?
My recollection was the thrust of that post was that Shower of Roses was more promising than Bin Dancin. Stand by that! Seem to recall I was attacked for suggesting that Bin was no champion and lacked acceleration. I wasn't even going to bring it up but have a look at her last couple of starts.
Are you saying people shouldn't have an open mind and be open to changing their minds (which I haven't even done).
Message: Think they still call you coat pullers dragon . The old ,I know the owners ,brother inlaws sister's cousin who has a close relationship to the people who live next door to the trainers cousin ....Please , give an opinion but don,t show the grandiosed delusion that knowing someone makes you right .
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