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Author: johnsjac 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 3:20:49 PM
Subject: 1000 guineas

Message:
any thoughts on to who is going to win this race?
will it be a sydney sider coming down like fashions afield or mnemosyne or do you think the melbourne horses like doubting, pinezero, chetwynd south have the upper hand?

cheers
johnno

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Author: Arthur 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 4:02:35 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

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I strongly believe Mnemosyne is the best 3yo filly in the land if not the best 3yo period. The question every year is how well the Sydney group can adjust to the Melbourne way of racing. We have seen no clear outstanding 3yo to date as each race produces a different winner.

Mnemosyne has really come good this prep and if she holds her form then she should win the 100 guineas. Fasions Afield had her chance to beat her yesterday and she got run down ... i dont see her turning the tables on Mnemosyne again especially as the distances rise. Sydney Owner is one from left field that could improve further, and Media and Carry on Cutie look like they're Oaks types more than milers.

The Melb. fillies look pretty even although Doubting won really well yesterday .. she could be the smokey.

Mnemosyne should win the Flight and stamp herself as the best of her age group and win the 1000 Guineas. A pity she'll be missing the Cox Plate because she is the only 3yo at this stage that i see as having some shot

All to be found out soon ...



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Author: Trackrider14 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 4:23:03 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

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Doubting had a far easier run then Pinezero yesterday. Odds on Pinezero atm are about $71?
Pine was runnig straight into the headwind the whole way while Doubting got the slipstream and just pulled out and went crack. Didn't put anything more onto her either.

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Trackie

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Author: Todman 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 4:27:39 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

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I doubt that Hawke's will continue her campaign thru to Melbourne, particularly if he is not going on to the oaks with her.

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Author: muirfield 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 5:40:40 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

Message:
ISANAMI
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Author: Bell Flight 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 5:44:46 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

Message:
Mnemosyne will win the Flight, Thousand Guineas and the Nestle on Derby Day.
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Author: damiandevola 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 5:51:16 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

Message:
isanami
certainty beaten yesterday.
love the horse.
seems to have gotten over its erratic barrier manners now.
loves distance.

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Author: johnsjac 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 6:34:28 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

Message:
trackie, pinezero did have a bit of a hard run- but that was due to callows ride, but doubting was 3 wide the whole way and hates the going but like steve said she didnt like it, but to her credit she kept going, into the wind she was the 1st horse to not be in the top 2 around the turn and win
it was a good run, pinezero is at good e-w odds though i agree... but if its dry ill be happy with our filly!

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johnno

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Author: Trackrider14 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 7:46:48 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

Message:
Sometimes its better to be 3 wide the whole way.
If it was dry and no-wind yesterday Pinezero would have won. At flemington she would most likely have been run down. She will get a mile on class. Not saying that she will win a big races but definatly a G race or 2.

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Trackie

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Author: camel56 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 8:03:37 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

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Yes Bellinda, Mnemo will certainly co closer in the big races than Hollow Bullet thats for sure. Speaking of which, how is "the star of the spring" going? lol
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Author: johnsjac 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 9:00:18 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

Message:
damian, a certentity beaten? come off it. i admit the interference did cost is a laceing. but as that happened it was about 2 and a half of pinezero and doubting. personally i dont think that it could of mafde that up.
But did run on well despite being interuppted with. still couldnt of picked up the top 2

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johnno

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Author: Cyril 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 9:10:10 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

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No one better at taking horses from Sinny to Melbourne than JR Hawkes. Mnemosyne wins.

Oh and Camel. You spit on the track and Hollow Bullet is not playing. I hope it rains right up to about a week before Caulfield Cup Day......I might be able to pay off the mortgage such will be her odds!

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Author: Red Hot Chillies 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 9:38:23 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

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mnemo looks to have peaked. she will be short odds next time out......3 wins in a row....time to get off..... caulfield doesnt suit anyway.....

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Author: bozza 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 9:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

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If Mnemosyne runs, she wins (providing Caulfield doesn't have its on-pace bias like it can have on TG day). As somebody else pointed out though, she looks like missing the race and going to the paddock after the Flight Stakes.

Pretty even bunch of fillies after her, Cayambe; Doubting; Jadescent; Chetwynd South; Pinezero; and Rewaaya. One other in the mix could be Jester Smoothie (Rory's Jester x Running Smooth (Marscay)). Won impressively at her first start at Werribee a couple of weeks ago when only 50% fit and is heading towards the Guineas.

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Author: muirfield 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 9:56:17 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

Message:
Yep Mnemo has peaked.

She won't be able to give Sydney Owner @ Fashion's 5 lengths again in the Flight.

Can't beat Isanami in the Guineas.

All these Hollow Bullet apologists keep forgetting that the track was pretty wet for the VRC Oaks.

Can't beat Plastered in the Caulfield Cup.

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Author: camel56 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 10:30:33 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

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You're dreaming cyril. She wont be winning the Caulfield Cup wet or dry.
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Author: Raw Instinct 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 10:56:49 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

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Isanami would be one of my top picks then maybe Rewaaya all depends on the odds.
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Author: damiandevola 
Timestamp:- 18/9/2005 11:26:55 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

Message:
johno
as im talking through my pocket i followed it closely through the run.
was coasting on the turn and at no stage did the jockey put it in a spot where it could win.
horrible ride, lucky to get the protest so my each way money came through. should have been wound up down the outside and would have one easily.

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Author: Browny 
Timestamp:- 19/9/2005 12:56:09 AM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

Message:
Muirfield, the track on VRC Oaks day was dead. The track on saturday at Caulfield was under water. Dead is ok for her but she has shown that slow and heavy are not her surfaces. The only good run she has put in this time was on a good track in the Craiglee when a closing 5th. She needs 2000m on a good track. I have spoken to both the trainer and one of the owners, who are aquaintences of mine and they maintain she does not like tracks adversely affected by rain. I saw them on Saturday at Caulfield and they advised me not to touch her given the conditions. Super Impose was a great example of this. Never out of a place on a dead surface but absolutely hopeless on slow or heavy going.
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Author: infidel 
Timestamp:- 19/9/2005 8:47:32 AM
Subject: Re: 1000 guineas

Message:
Who cares? The 1000 Guineas is often won by a moderate fluker.
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