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Author: Tongue-Tie Timestamp:- 3/11/2003 3:49:48 PM Subject: An Interesting Cup Statistic
Message: After some serious form study, I believe I have discovered an interesting stat regarding Melbourne Cup winners.
They must have won at their previous start:
2002: Media Puzzle - 1st Geelong Cup 2001: Ethereal - 1st Caulfield Cup 2000: Brew - 1st Saab Quality 1999: Rogan Josh - 1st Mackinnon Stakes 1998: Jezabeel - 6th Caulfield Cup (should have won though if everyone can remember the run) 1997: Might and Power - 1st Caulfield Cup 1996: Saintly - 1st Cox Plate 1995: Doriemus - 1st Caulfield Cup 1994: Jeune - 2nd Mackinnon Stakes 1993: Vintage Crop - 1st Irish St. Ledger
So, as you can see, from the past 10 winners of the Melbourne Cup, 8 of them have won at their previous start. This years Melbourne Cup has four possibilities: Mamool, Frightening, Big Pat and Yakama. From these 4 I believe the winner will be FRIGHTENING. Best of luck.
Author: phil the punter Timestamp:- 3/11/2003 5:39:15 PM Subject: Re: An Interesting Cup Statistic
Message: I realised that stat myself yesterday. It is in fact 11 of the past 15. Empire Rose, Lets Elope and Kingston Rule I believe also won their last start prior. Not sure about At Talaq and Kensei who go back 16 and 17 years. Kensei ran unplaced in the Mackinnon and At Talaq? I wasn't here to witness that one but I think he ran 2nd in the Caulfield cup prior but not sure whether he had another run.You are right about Jezabeel and if Jeune had struck a wet track in the Mackinnon he probably would have won that too. So the stat is awesome when all is considered.
Author: freeze33 Timestamp:- 3/11/2003 7:23:29 PM Subject: Re: An Interesting Cup Statistic
Message: Another piece of interesting trivia is that Grey Song (whom i am backing with confidence) has saddlecloth number 11 and is jumping from Barrier 20. The last time number 11 won the cup was in 1988 when Empire Rose saluted and the last time a horse won when jumping from barrier 20 was you guessed it....... Empire Rose on 1988!!
Author: sparky3933 Timestamp:- 3/11/2003 9:57:50 PM Subject: Re: An Interesting Cup Statistic
Message: I laugh whenever someone quotes statistics regarding saddlecloth numbers linked to barrier positions. But I suppose in a race that resembles a lottery, you will probably have just as much success finding the winner as someone who analyses the form. Out of the 24 runners, about 12 could conceivably win, with the one that gets the best ride and a bit(or a lot) of luck the one who will be immortalised. I'm hoping that its a clean race, for there is nothing worse for the connections to have their dreams shattered because of the reckless action of a rival jockey.
Author: Speedy Gonzalez Timestamp:- 4/11/2003 11:42:11 AM Subject: Re: An Interesting Cup Statistic
Message: last start winners have a good record in all races not just the cup. winning form is good form but if a horse runs a cracker race and doesn't win then that's just as good.
Author: mick Timestamp:- 4/11/2003 8:42:53 PM Subject: Re: An Interesting Cup Statistic
Message: the cup trifecta 1st:makybe diva last win 9.11.2002 2nd:-shes archie last win 18.5.2002 3rd:-jardines lookout last win 01.08.2002
this shows the quality of horse currently racing in australia is very poor
even looking at group 1 winners in melb during spring makes awful reading caulfield guineas :in top swing toorak hcp:roman arch cox plate:fields of omagh salinger stakes:ancient song
this will go down as one of the most ordinary melb spring carnivals for a long time
Author: JD Timestamp:- 5/11/2003 4:14:36 PM Subject: Re: An Interesting Cup Statistic
Message: Here's an interesting stat for everyone.
I haven't backed a winner in the Cup since Doriemus!!!
I normally have a good record in the Spring, but one race that I can never quite catch is the Cup.
For the record, I backed Jardine's Lookout and Pentastic (for the win only...yes I know that was stupid) and had a couple of trifecta's that did no good!!!
Author: catweazle Timestamp:- 5/11/2003 4:29:22 PM Subject: Re: An Interesting Cup Statistic
Message: It is an interesting stat, but I think you'll find that Kingston Rule ran second in the SAAB quality (it was called something different back then - probably the Dalgety Stakes) on the Saturday before the Cup, having won the MV Cup the previous week. Pretty tough horse.
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