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Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

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Author: quezacotl 
Timestamp:- 29/5/2012 10:23:39 PM
Subject: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:
Connections haven't ever given her a sling, they busttle and fight each other to lead the horse back in after her races and now she hasn't been asked to travel with the horse to the UK.

Pitiful.

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Author: maccamax 
Timestamp:- 30/5/2012 6:10:58 AM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:
Hi Q,
      people are jumping to conclusions over this subject and who knows ???
   Maybe her husband doesn't want her to spend so much time away from the kids .
   These Usbans shouldn't interfere with our Racing stars and it should be grounds to do what my dog does when I upset him.
   He takes his bone to the beetch next door.

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Author: oldhand 
Timestamp:- 30/5/2012 6:45:10 PM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

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Macca,
Sounds a very wise dog!

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Author: infidel 
Timestamp:- 30/5/2012 11:25:36 PM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

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"Connections haven't ever given her a sling"

Says who?

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Author: Mr Lister 
Timestamp:- 31/5/2012 8:33:47 AM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:
Not worth asking infidel. Probably another reliable source. Like the one that told him Frankel would be retired or the one who told him Black Caviar had been sold for $50,000,000. On and on it goes.
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Author: doosra 
Timestamp:- 31/5/2012 3:34:49 PM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:

Bad idea IMO to travel the mare without her known and trusted strapper :(   

But let's not jump to conclusions about why - it might have nothing at all to do with the owners.

As for slings etc, there is always gossip about the connections of champion horses, usually revolving around what A-holes they are.....sometimes it is true, more often it is not.

Reserve judgement until / unless concrete evidence appears.

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Author: Phar Lap rules 
Timestamp:- 1/6/2012 1:11:54 PM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

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If its true I can't imagine its the strappers call. Once in a lifetime chance, why wouldnt you go? Only for a couple of months. If true they probably have someone she is familiar with, but travelling horses is always risky and seems like a bad idea not to take her usual strapper.
Regarding scungy owners it is possibly true, but many owners of top horses seem entitled, as if they alone have contributed to the horses ability. Seen it many times before and have seen some shockingly rude and arrogant owners in racing office in the past. Just because you luck out with a good horse doesnt always mean you deserve it!!!!

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Author: quezacotl 
Timestamp:- 1/6/2012 11:03:50 PM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:
The owners dont even pay their training fees to Moody..

They have told him it's an honour to train the train the horse, if you don't like it there is a 1000 trainers who will.


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Author: kidlat 
Timestamp:- 2/6/2012 9:23:55 AM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:
I've heard they torture puppies.
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Author: squidman 
Timestamp:- 2/6/2012 9:32:11 AM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:
quez

how could anyone believe anything you say.
might be time to bring up the quez selections post

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Author: doosra 
Timestamp:- 2/6/2012 3:03:32 PM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:

Seriously Quez, do you have some evidence to support that statement?

Keep in mind that no-one is really "anonymous" on the internet. The internet does not bestow a carte blanche licence to slander people just because you feel like having a b!tch.

Sorry - but it's not very good form at all in my book, to be on here making these claims about BC's owners, unless you are extremely sure of your FACTS.

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Author: Lukestarsback 
Timestamp:- 2/6/2012 9:13:55 PM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:
I personally know the connections and trainer very well , the facts are :

1/ strapper can not make the trip due to family reasons

2/ Owners pay Pete and also give him 7.5% of stake monies earned rather than the 5% they are obliged to give.

3/ Pete did say he would train her for free after the 7.5% stake money offer was put to him but the owners declined.

Before people start to slander the connections GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT they are all fantastic people !!

Regards

Luke

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Author: Mr Lister 
Timestamp:- 2/6/2012 9:25:20 PM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:
Doosra, this is the same clown that tried to convince the forum he heard from people in the know that Black Caviar had been sold for $50,000,000. A mare being sold for a price akin to most superstar stallion prospects. That's his standard. Marginally above sludge, but well below the truth.
There are several other examples of his lies and bulldust.
Do yourself a favour and treat him accordingly, as you have done here.

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Author: quezacotl 
Timestamp:- 3/6/2012 12:02:14 PM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:

ewe are Such a tool lister, you have nfi.



here's the candy coated news release.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/black-caviars-handler-to-miss-uk-trip/story-fn67siys-1226381399520

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Author: CountChivas 
Timestamp:- 3/6/2012 3:16:39 PM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:

Lister,
You're $25m short.
Quez's info was that Black Caviar was being sold to a European investment banker for 75 million.


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Author: Mr Lister 
Timestamp:- 3/6/2012 4:42:34 PM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:
Quez, you've lied to the forum about the Black Caviar $75 million sale, Frankel being retired, you can't bet because of your job, you don't bet it was a Socialogical experiment, your iPad can't cut and paste without jumbling things up and spelling words wrong, the My Kingdom Of Fyfe tip that you can't reproduce because it didn't happen, etc., etc.

The forum knows who the tool is.

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Author: quezacotl 
Timestamp:- 3/6/2012 5:48:59 PM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:
You're an imbo Pukestar, I work alongside a racing personality off tvn who rides a lot of work before tv everyday, he was talking to Moody at the track when he was in Sydney recently attending to his satelitte stable.

Moody told him that Caviar actually costs him money to train, the stress and costs involved outweight anything he earns in fee's, there are at anytime 4 people being paid to constantly monitor the horse, he added that training her is a pain the arse particularly all the media attention, not to mention the fact the owners don't pay training fees, instead they have increased the winning percentage from 5% to 7.5% saying that if he doesn't like it, there are a 1000 trainers who will.

Get your facts right mate.



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Author: Maybach 
Timestamp:- 3/6/2012 9:40:59 PM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:
Luke,

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the mandatory trainers percentage of prize money in fact 10%?

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Author: mozza707 
Timestamp:- 4/6/2012 11:12:51 AM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:
yeah that's where i see both posts not making sense, i didnt think it was 5% for trainers it was 10%. the jock's get 5%.

and quez you can here all that on TVN you don't have to know the guy who does track work.....plllleeeeaaassseeeee.

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Author: thruyakik 
Timestamp:- 4/6/2012 11:52:28 AM
Subject: Re: Caviars Strapper not going to Ascot..

Message:
Well I'd like to hear what the strap. has to say, I'd be absolutely shattered if I was BC's strapper.

And yes trainer's get 10%

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