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Author: jimmy13 Timestamp:- 23/5/2006 10:29:50 AM Subject: Punters Are Back - Hallelujah!
Message: Instead of working this morning on the Train, I decided to read the paper and I came across Ray Thomas' article declaring that with the feud between TVN & SKY finally resolved that Punters were back...
This is Ray as usual pandering to the PR departments delivering meaningless propoganda, instead of honouring the creed of real journalists to actually investigate and question the real meaning of data. RIP Richard Carleton.
He delivers statistical proof that in this first weekend since the resolution, turnover on both Sydney & Melbourne when compared to last year's corresponding meetings had increased by 14% & 29% respectively over the same meeting last year, Rosehill even had 1 less race.
Hallelujah!!!
We are saved.
IF YOU RE-BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
HOGWASH!
Firstly, in Melbourne you are comparing a Flemington Meeting (2006) with a Moonee Valley Meeting (2005). I am aware of plenty regular punters who will not bet at Moonee Valley and thus this comparison is already irrelevant.
Secondly, in 2005 the two meetings were held 17 days into the beginning of the war at a time when punters were voting with their wallets and TVN was not fully available to the public at large with home & pubs/clubs slowly gaining access.
He should be comparing the figures to 2004 prior to the War and I am not privvy to these figures but I daresay that the downturn would be concerning to all industry participants.
Like the ARL / Super League War in Rugby League, the spin doctors will continue to deliver a positive prognosis but I still know of people who simply do not watch league anymore.
Author: Racing Gal Timestamp:- 29/5/2006 12:24:17 PM Subject: Re: Punters Are Back - Hallelujah!
Message: Is there a Minister of Racing in NSW? If thre is he is yet to find his way to a racecourse. Maybe we should put up some signposts for him.
That's right, I remember now, his name is Grant McBride and he does not gamble. He goes out of his way to make things very complicated for racing in this State.
Our friends south of the border are very lucky they have a very racing friendly government. There is no way they would sell off land to stop racegoers getting into the course as happened at Randwick.
Author: mcgarret Timestamp:- 26/5/2006 6:30:48 PM Subject: Re: Punters Are Back - Hallelujah!
Message: NF
lol
What about "White Shoes" Pemberton telling the Sydney Clubs to "cut the cr*p"!
Absolutely hysterical.
This was the same guy, who not that long ago when Chairman of the NSW TAB, suggested that race clubs deserved absolutely nothing for their TV signal because they already got sufficient "handouts" from the TAB.
Well, the baron/serf relationship has sort of changed a bit hasn't it!
"Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!"
I think Gary needs to go back to his Gold Coast billabong and build a roomfull of mirrors.
Author: Night Flight Timestamp:- 25/5/2006 10:07:35 AM Subject: Re: Punters Are Back - Hallelujah!
Message: mcg,
The facts of the matter are that Ray is not providing an apples with apples comparison here.
The TAB compares revenue on a calendar basis regardless of the actual meetings timing and or proximity to racing carnivals.
So for example in 2005 the equivalent calendar meeting occurred seven weeks after Easter Carnival. In 2006 it was only four weeks post Carnival.
Ray made a similar mistake a few weeks back comparing the Hawkesbury meeting. At that time he compared the Hawkesbury meeting with a meeting four weeks after Easter Carnival not a meeting week after Carnival as was the case with Hawkesbury in 2006.
In any case the Hawkesbury revenue number was overstated anyway and has yet to be publicly corrected.
Although the TAB does provide considerable support to News Limited, Ray's columns are no more than Racing NSW propaganda these days. And, that is where the real battle will be in coming months Racing NSW versus the racing clubs...
Author: mcgarret Timestamp:- 24/5/2006 7:44:05 PM Subject: Re: Punters Are Back - Hallelujah!
Message: See you Jimmy!
I may be wrong, but I seem to dimly remember from the pre-war era that a large Australian publicly owned company pays the Sydney Daily Telegraph a lot of money each year for editorial placement in the racing pages.
I don't think it's Woolworth's, but we should definitely keep Tab's on this subject.
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