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Author: pauls 
Timestamp:- 11/6/2007 7:36:17 PM
Subject: Don Scott Ratings

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This question possibly has been raised before, and sorry if it has. Lately I've been spending some time following the Don Scott ratings on your site, and I am thoroughly impressed with the work that obviously goes into them, and for free also.

One thing that I just noticed concerns the penalties/plusses on the "Worksheet" page for the jockeys. This of course has a relevant bearing on the final rating figure.

How does a jockey like D. Beadman get a 1.5 plus figure when he has a strike rate of 25.5 as opposed to say G. Colless also with a 1.5 plus figure when he has a strike rate of 17.5. Then you get say B. Pengelly with a plus figure of 2.5 when he has a strike rate of 18.4.

For todays Eagle Farm meeting I also noticed S. Seamer with a minus 1.0 in race 7, and then with a "0" in race 8...?

I realise that one has the facility to change this rating figure, but I would have thought that the "default" figure was based on jockeys records.

Any comments please.

Regards
Paul

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Author: Robert 
Timestamp:- 12/6/2007 12:52:53 AM
Subject: Re: Don Scott Ratings

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Pauls,

Jockey ratings are also dependant on distance and are not based soley on win strike rate.

The "Est Ratings" shown on the "ratings" page is not the not Final Rating based on the worksheet - it is there simply as a worked ratings guide on that page.

Hope this helps,
Robert Vilkaitis

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Author: GunPunter 
Timestamp:- 11/6/2007 10:38:49 PM
Subject: Re: Don Scott Ratings

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"I have found that this is by far the best form analysis tool out there."

But is it profitable?

Analysis means nothing if it ain't profitable.

If you don't understand the formulas behind it, how can you trust it? Better to work out your own method.



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Author: pauls 
Timestamp:- 11/6/2007 10:10:23 PM
Subject: Re: Don Scott Ratings

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hi there Loosenup, and thanks for your reply, I totally agree.

I would have thought that the Est Ratings shown on the "ratings" page should be the same as the BRR figure on the "worksheet" page and then you adjust from that. It's some years now since I read the final one of Don's books, so I cant remember his exact formulas.

I am now wondering if I should have been paying more attention to the ratings on the "ratings" page rather than the FR on the "worksheets" page.

And I think your right there about having to rerate the jockeys to your individual thoughts, I guess you have a set of figures that you have arrived at.

Time to ponder again,....!!

Paul

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Author: loosenup 
Timestamp:- 11/6/2007 9:04:09 PM
Subject: Re: Don Scott Ratings

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Paul,I agree with what you say, when I use the worksheet, I completely rerate the jockey figures. I also find that the base run rating can be out in terms of the way Don Scott says it should be arrived at in his book.

I also cant understand how the rating figure in the tab about three or four to the left of the worksheet is often so inconsistent with the worksheet when all I would have thought the worksheet would be for is to make an adjustment of the ratings sheet if you dont agree with something in it.

It would be good if someone from the site could advise exactly how the ratings figures in the form tab are arrived at. Are they relative to the weight the horse is carrying that day.

Having said this, I have found that this is by far the best form analysis tool out there.

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