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Author: moonchase Timestamp:- 8/3/2010 5:20:02 PM Subject: Re: cheltenham festival
Message: i would rate the cheltenham festival the best racing carnival i have ever been to.
was lucky enough to be there last year to cheer on kauto star in the gold cup and see other champions like master minded strut their stuff.
yes i have been to the cup carnival, slipper etc but cheltenham tops them all.
what makes cheltenham the best (apart from the facts its 4 days of jumping only) is the atmosphere. unlike the cup carnival where its a heap of drunks, and people who have no idea about racing, cheltenham gets a crowd who are there not to get slaughtered but to watch the races. the crowd really gets into every race and makes alot of noise as they come for home. all winners are given a great reception on they way back to scale.
for those who appreciate racing, there is nothing better. i would recommend it to any racing fan as a must.
Author: patsy fagan Timestamp:- 8/3/2010 10:16:06 AM Subject: Re: cheltenham festival
Message: rex,
you do have bone hard tracks and many horses from europe break down when they come to australia..
i agree the national is far more dangerous but theres very few fatalities now that come from jumping the fences..the fences have been changed..some on here have very little knowledge of uk racing and wouldnt realise that.
there was zero need for you to come on here and start saying how much better a carnival melbourne is,how you have better numbers and how the UK could learn so much from the melbourne carnival..most of your posts are incredibly pro australia and are clearly confrontational.
can we just move on and appreciate cheltenham,its march its cheltenham..its not november in melbourne..both great spectacles.
Author: Rex Timestamp:- 7/3/2010 11:54:44 PM Subject: Re: cheltenham festival
Message: Patsy,
I love watching the GN and am a supporter of jumps racing, provided sensible measures re: horse welfare are taken, but your last comment comparing injuries/fatalities between Australian "firm" tracks and the GN is one of the most ridiculous and probably offensive remarks you have ever posted on here. I still dont understand why you submit anti Australian posts on an Australian site. You are an a-hole mate, no two ways about it.
Message: the national fences are half the size now.. good thing too.. As much chance of a horse breaking down on your bone hard tracks as getting injured in the grand national.
Author: patsy fagan Timestamp:- 7/3/2010 6:52:36 AM Subject: Re: cheltenham festival
Message: no i remember peter o sullivan..lovely old gent..remember his call on desert orchids memorable win..that was incredible.(and here it is!)
dessie englands favourite racehorse who won everywhere bar cheltenham,who hated cheltenham,hated soft ground,hated going left handed,but was willed over the line in heavy going by 99% of the 60,000 capacity crowd in the snow sleet and rain,that race is what got me into horse racing,i blame dessie for blowing my wages on a saturday! :)
Author: camel56 Timestamp:- 6/3/2010 11:23:13 PM Subject: Re: cheltenham festival
Message: What are the TAB going to do about betting on the races that have more than 24 runners? Dont they say computer limitations is why they cant have emergencies (taking it beyond 24 runners) for the Melbourne Cup? I assume this happens at Cheltenham?
Author: loges2 Timestamp:- 6/3/2010 9:22:09 PM Subject: Re: cheltenham festival
Message: Thanks for the link's Patsy, hair raising stuff. A great exhibition of jumping and loved the commentary, very reminiscent of Peter O'Sullevan (he might have been before your time).
Like the idea at the start where the jocks can choose where they want to position their mount,helping them to settle easy and run along on a loose rein.
Denman looks to be something special,I'll be tuning in on the 14Th.
Will look forward to your rundown before the cup and espeasally before the National.
Message: Tabcorp jumps to expand UK coverage Feb 10 2010
In mid-March Sky Racing and the TAB will broadcast and wager on the famous Cheltenham Festival. The four day coverage underscores Tabcorp’s commitment to cover the best jumps racing from the UK each season. The Aintree Race Festival will be the focus in April, which features the world-famous Grand National.
Message: some magic cheltenham moments..had a huge bet on denman so it holds a special place 4 me.. the roars as they get to the final bend in the gold cup is as good as racing gets..
Message: nice post loges...it truly is a wonderful 4 days racing..
and what a setting in the cotswolds..
roars from the crowd as each race begins..amazing receptions in the winners enclosure..the irish plunging on their horses and a roar as one hits the front..i adore it all..
i think their showing it live on sky in australia..
Author: loges2 Timestamp:- 6/3/2010 8:45:55 AM Subject: Re: cheltenham festival
Message: Patsy. Great race meeting Cheltenham,was one of my favourites in my time in the UK,which was the Arkle V Mill House era .
As far as stats re attendance goes, has nothing to do with the class of racing on the track,as witnessed by the Melbourne Cup which is more a dress up party and an excuse to get sloshed,and the men are just as bad.
The closest we come to Cheltenham in Australia is the warrnambool Jumps meeting in May,which features the grand annual steeplechase which has two more jumps than the big one at Aintree,one of them being the "fallen log" aye.
You are up against it trying to have Aussie's accept that England has something better and Macca is correct in what he says , we all believe we have the best .
As for myself,give me Cheltenham and Aintree any day ,a sight to behold.
Author: maccamax Timestamp:- 5/3/2010 1:57:14 PM Subject: Re: cheltenham festival
Message: Patsy Fagan....natural to be supportive to the religeon you are reared with...Clouded is your numbers ...think the record books show the M.C. had 123000 attend in 1923 when you had only settled near to 4 million convicts. All the carnivals have that special place in someones heart for them and we should support the lot and compare none really. I had a very handy horse once and I really wanted to win the Orange NSW Cup...problem was the weights would have been about 10 stone.....We did win the main Sydney Winter listed cup that year but the thrill wasn'r near what the hometown one would have been. Great country area ..produced some greats in banjo Patterson , Poletti , our next super trainer and of course the about to be famous Terry Bailey of The Vic racing Stewards panel...Plus me of course.
Author: Rex Timestamp:- 5/3/2010 1:11:05 PM Subject: Re: cheltenham festival
Message: Nothing to do with the be all end all- just stating a fact. We have been jousting on here for near on 10 years- and you are entitled to think of me what you like, but after 10 years I dont think I have given you reason to label me a liar.I am as straight as they come mate, sometimes to my own detriment.
Author: Rex Timestamp:- 5/3/2010 12:18:43 PM Subject: Re: cheltenham festival
Message: You are correct Patsy, you didnt say the MC was 1 day- in fact you said it was 1 race. Thats like saying that Cheltenham is one race. The MC carnival runs for a month, and it that time the entire economy of Melbourne receives a boost, then the nation stops for the race. The nation doesnt stop here for the Cheltenham Gold Cup.
Provide figure per capita, it is the only fair way of comparing the two.
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