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How would you beat Denman

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Author: JUBILEE 
Timestamp:- 4/3/2010 8:26:15 PM
Subject: How would you beat Denman

Message:
If you were a trainer of one of the other 8, wat tactic's would you advise your Jock to carry out to steal the Guineas trophy from him like a thief in the night ?
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Author: Clackers 
Timestamp:- 9/3/2010 10:59:00 AM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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Stop trying so hard 7thashbyboof.

We know how stupid you are already.
Count was merely answering the question by saying they won't beat Denman.

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Author: Rex 
Timestamp:- 9/3/2010 8:43:06 AM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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Hail!!!!!
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Author: boof182 
Timestamp:- 6/3/2010 9:59:21 PM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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Chivas,

What does stealing the trophy from the cabinet have to do with beating Denman? You think if someone knicked the trophy the race wouldn't go ahead anyway?

Denman would still win, just no trophy.

Fool

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Author: JUBILEE 
Timestamp:- 6/3/2010 4:14:55 PM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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HA......We did.


for now only.............

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Author: CountChivas 
Timestamp:- 6/3/2010 10:07:51 AM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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Get the other jockeys to break into the VRC's headquarters and steal the trophy from the safe, that's about the only chance they'll have of getting their hands on it.



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Author: last chance 
Timestamp:- 6/3/2010 9:07:49 AM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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The only chance of beating Denman is to get Khaptingly to lay him because Khap has never had a losing bet in his life you know.
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Author: Maybach 
Timestamp:- 6/3/2010 1:08:52 AM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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I really don't understand all this rubbish about him being a risk over the mile. Just because he was beaten in the Caufield Guineas, doesn't mean he won't run a mile.

The distance had nothing to do with his performance in the guineas.

If you want to beat him, get your horse to settle where it's comfortable, follow something into the race and hope that you are better than him on the day.

If he runs up to his best you won't be.

I reckon he'll win 3 ears pricked.

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Author: sterlo86 
Timestamp:- 5/3/2010 7:23:20 PM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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Case man why did you have to mention Scarf, Between me and a mate it was the biggest plonk we'd had on a first starter ever, and I was just starting to get over it.

In reards to Denman the barrier has decided his fate and he'll have to lead all the way, If you think McEvoy has the balls to try and find cover your kidding yourself.

I think he'll win and the $1.80 IAS are betting is good value.

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Author: Redback 
Timestamp:- 5/3/2010 4:55:56 PM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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He's Lonhro version 2.0, a sit-sprint champ. Make him run it hard, above his cruising speed, and see if he has anything left at the end. Will be interesting to watch.

Also looking forward to watching Choisir 2.0 in the Newmarket, it's uncanny these two horses.

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Author: Poindexter 
Timestamp:- 5/3/2010 4:06:57 PM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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I would be probably have to use a big stick

But then seriously..

Carrara leads at a clip..
Denman in behind.. if Denman stays.. Linton has the chance to run him down

If Denman duzzn't stay Carrara to lead all the way.. Hall will caught out on Linton ala following Denman

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Author: Stylish Century 
Timestamp:- 5/3/2010 12:03:32 PM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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Denman is a star and will be winning easily. If you get evens, put the house on it.
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Author: boof182 
Timestamp:- 5/3/2010 12:02:24 PM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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thruyakik,

What are you on about?

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Author: Case_man 
Timestamp:- 5/3/2010 11:46:25 AM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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The only way Denman will get beat is by Mckevoy,yes he does ride some good races but look at the good horses he gets,watch the ride on Scarf at canterbury on thursday night and you'll see what he is capable of.Most over-rated jockey in the country.

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Author: Spinning Knight 
Timestamp:- 5/3/2010 10:41:18 AM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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The trainers have already doen all they can by not booking McEvoy, having him ride Denman is their biggest chance of winning.
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Author: Arthur 
Timestamp:- 5/3/2010 10:04:41 AM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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The only horse who can beat him is Linton - super ability and we know will be strong at the distance. In saying that Denman will win.
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Author: maccamax 
Timestamp:- 5/3/2010 9:13:45 AM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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We never learn to accept that everything has its TRUE PRICE......
Ajax was beaten at [40/1 ON]..I wonder what his true price really was. before the event.
I wonder what Denman's true price really is .... I believe he should be close to even money, but like all punters I am wrong more often than right...
There is some doubt I expect at the 1600, wide draw , weather etc.
If we concentrate on true price rather than our natural bias , the punt is a piece of cake
Getting that overs is made a bit easier with the variety of betting outlets available these days [ especially Betfair ]
I see a great overs in Heart Of Dreams in the Au Cup....$6 is great for a horse who has won 3 rd up at every campaign...Ticks all the boxes and for the doubters he will run 2000, on his fast 2 nd at his only attempt to Whoby.
in the Yalumba....Handles Flemington and has matured since that run.
He didn't finish off the 2040 of the CoxP but in a sizzler that stuffed all bar the winner.

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Author: thruyakik 
Timestamp:- 5/3/2010 7:05:50 AM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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IMO if ridden like he was last start, he is beatable. Love to seem him let a couple go ahead of him.

Hate this 'keep him out of trouble' mentality they have with this horse.

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Author: bkmac 
Timestamp:- 4/3/2010 10:50:05 PM
Subject: Re: How would you beat Denman

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the trick is not killig your own horses chances of finishing as close to first as possible (obvious i know mcgarret).
denman will have to roll forward I reckon and lead or sit outside Carrara. You have to think Rock Classic and Set For Fame box seat and one out one back. Linton has to go back from 8 alley i reckon. Hanks will be back as well. Moody has Set for Fame and Hanks and could pressure Denman early with Set For Fame. Of course Denman could be slowly away like last start and from the 9 alley they may be keen to hold him out and then he could be trapped on a limb.
Bottom line is if he gets the front or outside the lead and gets to control it to a nicety he wins. I think Linton is very good and Rock Classic could be a surprise packet with his form lines being franked through Monton.
Set for Fame is the one of the favs i am least keen on.
If there is heaps of pressure up front then Hanks is good enough but more likely to see him work to the line late for 4th or 5th i would think.

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