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unbeaten and short priced fave for the 2000 guineas and english derby.
Word going round is that this horse is the best theyve ever seen at ballydoyle,considering theyve had the highest rated middle distance horses in world racing thats some word.
Author: infidel Timestamp:- 31/5/2010 10:07:41 AM Subject: Re: what do you think of this horse?
Message: Trainers change their minds day by day, sometimes minute by minute. Horses demand such mental dexterity but this would be a remarkable volte-face. When May began, St Nicholas Abbey was the subject of such delirious hype that the Triple Crown was apparently his for the taking. Four weeks on, it is permissible to wonder if we will ever see him again.
To his credit, O’Brien has been open and available as his dilemma develops. On Saturday, he dropped telling phrases into his latest bulletin on the deposed Investec Derby favourite. “If there was any doubt about him . . . ,” he said, and “we wouldn’t want to run him unless we were very happy”.
Final decisions are not expected until the next work morning, on Wednesday, but the colt prematurely anointed as another Sea The Stars will have to impress even to line up at Epsom. If he does not, and it is divined that he has not trained on, a stud career could be advanced abruptly.
Author: Rex Timestamp:- 4/5/2010 7:34:35 AM Subject: Re: what do you think of this horse?
Message: Rump.
you can get 4/1 elsewhere, which I think is probably about the right price. Firstly, what will win the Derby?, nothing stands out this year. Secondly, I do think the horse will go alot better with juice in the ground, if we knew now that the track would be soft to heavy on Derby day he would be 2/1.
Ballydoyle have had a cold start to the season, not sure why but there is no doubt the horse has ability so I wouldnt write him off unless it was a firm track, then (just my opinion) I would lay him all day.
Author: rump86 Timestamp:- 3/5/2010 11:56:34 AM Subject: Re: what do you think of this horse?
Message: That is the IAS market for the Derby. Is he entitled to be so short after that run on the weekend Patsy?
Selection Win Place St Nicholas Abbey 2.75 Passion For Gold 13.00 Elusive Pimpernel 15.00 Workforce 15.00 Chabal 16.00 Jan Vermeer 18.00 Al Zir 21.00 Cape Blanco 21.00 Coordinated Cut 21.00 Joshua Tree 21.00 Azmeel 26.00 Burj Nahar 26.00 Mendip 31.00 Viscount Nelson 31.00 Sea Lord 41.00
Author: Rex Timestamp:- 2/5/2010 7:50:14 PM Subject: Re: what do you think of this horse?
Message: Think he can still win the Derby, but only if there is juice in the ground. At the end of the day there doesnt appear (at this stage) much around that will run at strong 2400m
Author: infidel Timestamp:- 2/5/2010 9:36:05 AM Subject: Re: what do you think of this horse?
Message: Crikey, pommy bookmakers must love the 2000 Guineas. For some strange reason, far beyond my powers of comprehension, pommy mugs love backing the favourite many months before the race, at criminally short odds ... and the favourite never wins. Ka ching!
Author: infidel Timestamp:- 2/5/2010 9:00:58 AM Subject: Re: what do you think of this horse?
Message: I will give you a tip for free, Patsy. I know your super Montjeus are probably unrelated to our cheap and nasty ones, but I have a firm Montjeu rule- if the soft is not soft (for the euro softies), don't back them.
Author: patsy fagan Timestamp:- 29/4/2010 3:53:05 PM Subject: Re: what do you think of this horse?
Message: the only query is the ground eastside..
will be fast going..he's always run with give underfoot.
I trust O brien to have the horse at his peak,he's won this race before with the same prep.
The vibe is that St Nick is an absolute superstar.
Elusive Pimpernal romped in the other day 2nd in the racing post trophy to St Nick) i think he's the biggest danger as he's proven himself on the faster going.
Have heard that St Nick has improved over the winter so he surely going to be extremely hard to beat..ive had a large bet at 9-4..
Author: glencoe Timestamp:- 29/4/2010 1:11:46 PM Subject: Re: what do you think of this horse?
Message: The Grand Criterium has traditionally been the mile test for 2 y.olds. I think the Trophy has gained ground and so the quality has improved. Writing off St Nick on the basis of his 2 y.old programme may no longer be relevant.
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