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Message: Littorio doesn't smell right for Sydney Cup. Do I detect a hint of sweetness? Could be bananacake or cream puff. He will start paddling when it gets grim.
Author: Hands N Heels Timestamp:- 4/4/2010 12:10:41 PM Subject: Re: SYDNEY CUP- LITTORIO
Message: Clackers
It wasn't the wet track which brought DIVINE REBEL undone last year, it was McEvoy's attempts to have her 3 wide most of the way and more importantly the significant weight turnaround vs IK out of the Chairmans. I chose to ignore the latter so confident was I, had her 1 out in the quaddie and it cost me $8K.
One thing's for sure though, this is going to be a vintage edition of the Sydney Cup.
Message: I'd rate Littorio a much better BMW chance than Sydney Cup chance, provided he is ridden slightly closer to the speed and more importantly, provided Theseo isn't given a picnic upfront.
Theseo has been described as being in the same mould as Desert War and Grand Armee. Neither of those could win beyond 2000m - although granted, it took a flying Makybe Diva to run down Grand Armee in the BMW.
I think in a truly run 2400m race, Theseo may just struggle. On that, I'm not really counting his swim in last years BMW as an overly relevant formline.
Littorio is an ideal type to run over the top of them. Having said that, I will reserve judgement until closer the day, once I know fields, likely tempo, and track condition. Today, I like Speed Gifted.
Author: seapost Timestamp:- 23/3/2010 9:23:15 AM Subject: Re: SYDNEY CUP- LITTORIO
Message: Precedence may not have beat anything yet I agree but he is on a big up curve, has the right breeding (Zabeel) and beat Zipping's Australian Cup winning time by more than 2 seconds on the same day.
There you go 3 good reason's he can win and no sight of any Bart rhetoric, although I doubt the greatest trainer of stayers the world has ever seen will hurt the geldings chances.
Message: Tough Race there are a lot of chances. Littorio finished off well, No Wine No Song finished off solidly, Precedence gapped them in Melbourne, which won of these is proven over 3200 in Sydney? History means alot in racing.
Message: I'm not going to try to change anyone's tip, but NWNS beat a bunch of walkers in 2008 - he will have to have improved to win this year and at his age that is unlikely. I'd be surprised if he could beat home Moatize or Harris Tweed.
I actually thought of the BMW when I saw Littorio's run, because I think he's a doubt at the 3200. Has Blackiston said what path he's taking yet?
Off topic, does anyone know what the plans are for Marasco after his first up win?
Message: No Wine no Song the best trial there, still nice odds available too. Precedence hasn't beaten anything yet, others are proven at the level. (spare me the bart rhetoric)
Message: Divine Rebel and NWNS each produced two of the best Cup trials I've seen in a long time. Both are distance proven, and will prove hard to beat in the Sydney Cup. The wetter the track, the more I would favour NWNS.
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