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Author: Rex Timestamp:- 21/5/2010 11:41:09 AM Subject: Re: rocket man beaten..
Message: Already stated Rip Van Winkle was a good horse. When you talk about Master Craftsman form, is this the same MC who has only ever won one race outside of Ireland? The same MC who beat Delegator at Ascot in a restricted 3yo race? Yeah, he is a good horse, but that is hardly world class mile form. And if you were telling the entire story you would add that this all came about when I quantified Resets form, which has world class at a mile when you put a line through Stafrcarafts form.
Back up carrot muncher- noone is saying STS was not something special, noone has said Paco Boy and Rip arent good horses, but keep it real.
Message: STS was a brilliant horse no doubt a champion 3yo- but what did he beat in that Guineas? Delegator finished 2nd and has managed only a dead heat win since and has been disappointing since. Rip Van Winkle finished in behind and went on to run well in Europe but was annihilated once taken overseas.
Rip Van Winkle thrashed Paco Boy..Sea The Stars did the same to Rip Van Winkle. The way you dismissed the form of the 2000 guineas was astonishingly poor.
Delegator won a G2/a G3/twice placed at G1 level.
Rip Van Winkle two G1's
Mastercraftsman 4 Group 1's a Group 2 and a Group 3
Author: Rex Timestamp:- 20/5/2010 10:30:08 AM Subject: Re: rocket man beaten..
Message: Paco Boy was a very good win by a top horse- and your point is Patsy? I was on here a while back saying the horse would run a mile when you and most pundits said he was a 7 furlong horse. Now pull the carrot out and have another bite sunshine.
Author: Rex Timestamp:- 17/5/2010 7:29:04 PM Subject: Re: rocket man beaten..
the point of your last post is? isnt that what was just said. Repeat just for the "slow"-
Rocket Man doesnt Like juice in the ground. When you have a look at the horses build you will understand why, just as you would understand why STS wouldnt want it soft.
The difference between the two is Rocket Man was unlucky enough for it to tip down during the evening before the event, if that happened prior the Arc then STS would never have won it, simple because he would have been with drawn.
If you cannot see the ability that this horse possesses then it says far more about you than the horse mate.
Author: Rex Timestamp:- 17/5/2010 2:40:28 PM Subject: Re: rocket man beaten..
Message: Fair dinkum- told you all a long time ago this Patsy was a numbnut. Im out here and I can assure you it tipped it down, thunder lightning, the works- the horse didnt handle the juice in the ground- that was obvious to anyone who watched the race and has even half an idea and backed up by comments made by Robbie Faad straight after the race- they ran more than 2 seconds outsdside the record which is held by Sacred Kingdom, yes in the race RM was beaten a neck- do the maths Patsy.
So Rocket Man doesnt like it with juice in the ground and neither did STS- so whats your point?
So how is the greatest horse Coolmore have ever had- you know the one that would gap anything in Australia before it was seen at 3, going? "Which end does this carrot go"- clueless
Author: sterlo86 Timestamp:- 17/5/2010 10:44:43 AM Subject: Re: rocket man beaten..
Message: Not sure never really followed Rocket Man but I've always been a fan and followed green birdie after he ran 2nd to Miss Andretti in the Schillaci. Has always been ridden back in the pack since transferring to Honkers so requires a lot of luck in running.
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