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Author: Tontonan Timestamp:- 3/7/2012 5:02:56 PM Subject: Re: Mark Webber 2 Black Caviar Nil
Message: I think the kids participation rate in soccer has probably peaked and both the AFL and NRL have successfully rallied in the past 10 years to regain lost ground. Plus the expansion of those codes into new markets could account for some improvement also.
However the participation rate of girls in soccer continues to grow, and that will stand soccer in good stead for the future because girls become mums and mums are very influential in what sports kids take up.
I share Your Majesty's skepticism about swimming participation rates, but kids do generally learn to swim between the ages of 8 and 15 and I wonder whether 'participation' is defined so broadly to include learning to swim ? If it is then why isn't learning to ride a bike, or indeed just riding a bike not included in the stats as sports participation ?
Does their need to be a competitive element for a physical activity to be defined as sport ?
I mean if I go down to the local to have a few jars and throw some darts am I participating in a sport ? How about when I get on my bike and pedal home ?
Lies, damned lies and the Australian Bureau of Statistics ?
For boys, aged 5 to 14, the highest participation rate for organized sport outside of school hours in Australia is 19.9% for football (soccer) ahead of swimming at 17.2%, Australian rules football 16.0%, cricket 9.7%, tennis 9.4%, basketball 8.5%, martial arts 7.5%, Rugby League 7.0% and athletics 3.0%.
The figures were compiled in 2009.
This compared with a 2003 survey that saw football (22.2%) ahead of swimming (15.7%) Australian rules football (13.6%) tennis (9.5%) cricket (9.1%) basketball (8.6%) martial arts (6.2%) Rugby League (5.6%) and athletics (3.8%).
As you can see football has lost some in the 6 year period declining from 22.2% to 19.9% while Australian rules has recovered from 13.6% to 16% and Rugby League has also improved its participation rate from 5.6% to 7%. Swimming has also increased from 15.7% to 17.2%, as has martial arts from 6.2% to 7.5%. Cricket also improved from 9.1% to 9.7% while Tennis (9.5% to 9.4%) and basketball (8.6% to 8.5%) have remained stable.
For girls, the highest participation rates in 2009 were Swimming 19.8% (up from 17.5% in 2003) Netball 17% (down from 18.1%) Gymnastics 7.6% (up from 5.4%) Tennis 6.3% (down from 7.8%) Basketball 6.3% (down from 6.9%) Football 6.2% (up from 4.2%) and Martial arts 3.7% (steady-was 3.6%).
Girls participation rate in Athletics declined from 3.8% to 3.5%.
The most popular non organized physical activity from both boys and girs was bike riding (66.1% boys and 54.4% girls).
Author: MD Timestamp:- 1/7/2012 10:01:51 AM Subject: Re: Mark Webber 2 Black Caviar Nil
Message: Your Maj, not only are the 'traditional' Australian footy codes as popular as ever, now soccer is played by far more kids than a generation or 2 ago. Add to that the growth of other sports such as basketball and 'older' sports such as tennis I feel have suffered as a result. No stats to support this, just my gut feel.
Author: MD Timestamp:- 29/6/2012 12:13:20 PM Subject: Re: Mark Webber 2 Black Caviar Nil
Message: My comments have even more relevance after a few of our supposed tennis stars tantrums this week. Seems to me most of the brats (Lleyton aside) seem to come from Europe these days.
Does anyone take tennis seriously in this country anymore? A game for spoilt brats - I certainly don't know any 'normal' people whose kids play it. Seemed like kids playing tennis was everywhere when I was growing up. Guess they've wised up to the fact that it is as boring as batsh!t.
Message: Great charge from 19th to 4th after being knobbled by his team during qualifying, great to see this bloke restore Aussie pride after BC's connections complete boondoggle at Ascot. Can't wait to see Cadel win le tour then we aussies will be able to hold our heads high again.
Author: MD Timestamp:- 28/5/2012 4:15:08 PM Subject: Re: Mark Webber 2 Black Caviar Nil
Message: Jezza, I have to agree re the Poo. Probably was a bit of a peanut but no more so than most other spoilt tennis brats. Rafter was always the media darling but I'm pretty sure he never won a Davis Cup for his country.
Author: jesaulenko Timestamp:- 28/5/2012 1:13:32 PM Subject: Re: Mark Webber 2 Black Caviar Nil
Message: Weight Special...
I was courtside in Nice, France in 1999... this is truly 1 of the greatest sporting performances by any athlete in the history of this nation...
Regardless of anything else that did/did not happen in The Poo's career, he was certainly no dud, imo, he is the equal of any tennis player for his country in the last 25 years...
Nice was 1 of the most inhospitable venues I have witnessed across all live sport, barring Old Firm clashes at Ibrox...
See below reference to the Philippoussis via Wiki...
Philippoussis has always claimed to be proud of representing his country in Davis Cup, but personal differences with John Newcombe and Tony Roche interfered with his commitment early in his career. Despite several highly publicised feuds, Mark played a large part in giving Australia their 27th Davis Cup triumph—second only to the United States with 31—but it was their first since 1986. In 1999 he defeated Cédric Pioline, 6–3, 5–7, 6–1, 6–2, in Nice, France.
Injuries plagued Mark's availability for Davis cup and was the cause of a public rift between team-mates Patrick Rafter and Lleyton Hewitt. Rafter publicly accused Philippoussis of jerking the team around after he withdrew from a Davis Cup tie in late 2000. Philippoussis said Rafter was ill-informed and upset by the lack of support and understanding from his team-mates.
Knee surgeries forced Philippoussis out of Davis Cup until February 2003. By then, Pat Rafter had retired, and John Fitzgerald and Wally Masur were the new Davis Cup captain and coach. The impact of these changes was instantly recognised, as team harmony was at its highest throughout the year. Philippoussis once again sealed victory for Australia in the Melbourne Final against Spain. Mark beat Spain's Juan Carlos Ferrero in a 7–5, 6–3, 1–6, 2–6, 6–0 battle. Mark suffered a pectoral tear at the end of the second set, which caused him to lose the third and fourth sets. He regrouped in the fifth set and trounced Ferrero 6–0.
Author: geelong63 Timestamp:- 28/5/2012 1:11:59 PM Subject: Re: Mark Webber 2 Black Caviar Nil
Message: Monaco would be by far the best F1 track in the world if they had one or two passing corners. Webber did a great job in qualifying (where it counts for Monaco and for once his team didn't stuff up the strategy, although it was a close run thing with the tyre change. Must have killed the chasers when he stacked them up for the last 10 laps then used his KERs to slip away before the straight so Rosberg couldn't use his DRS to challenge. A well deserved victory - two great drives on two consecutive days.
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