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Author: maccamax Timestamp:- 1/7/2012 9:35:47 PM Subject: Re: More bad behaviour from Aussie
Message: You cannot destroy the pecking order of society and get away with it ... Meaning the inbuilt respect of chain of authority which is the very foundation. [ ie ]Parents , Police , School Teachers, The senior members of the workplace etc etc. That respect is long gone and those now labelled the do gooders get the nod. Sickening to see the croc tears in Parliament last week . Yes we all feel bad that Humans are subject to wars etc but we can't save the billions who live by tribal customs who look upon us as the enemy in reality. Joe Hockey should have had a dummy in his mouth and a big pram .Did nothing to help. I will house as many boat people in my house as those who cried house in theirs .. How That .... Bring back the whip , the cane and ban sex after marriage ..... and Patsy
Author: CountChivas Timestamp:- 1/7/2012 5:21:24 PM Subject: Re: More bad behaviour from Aussie
Message: Timesman, You'll probably find that as your two young boys get older, you will become their mate and they, yours.
It's a different kind of mateship though. The kids you speak of, who allow their parents to become their mates do so because there are liberties in it for them, booze, money, image etc, but as they get older they begin to tire of their parents constant presence in their 'social' life. That is a mateship with strings attached and when it's ended, it's usually, permanent.
The mateship I'm referring to is one with no strings attached, where your kids (now adults) want to be your mate (for want of a better word) simply because they enjoy your company.
That's how it's worked out for me and my two sons, and daughter, and going by your last post, I was every bit as strict as you were.
Author: Timesman Timestamp:- 1/7/2012 12:48:47 PM Subject: Re: More bad behaviour from Aussie
Message: Macca,
I have an 11 and a 15 year old (both boys).
They get nothing is they don't say pls and thank you. If they don't say it the first time, chances are they still get nothing.
I see the biggest threat to their coming years is the people they choose to mix with (thus their environment). The 15 year old has school friends who drink at this age and the parents know about it (thus the family). He doesn't associate with these boys any more.
My last gripe (I'll get off my soapbox in a moment) is that to many parents mainly dads, want to be mates with their boys. How many 15 year old mates do you have? This ideas of calling your father by his first name and other parents by their first name, is not on in our household. If I appear old fashioned, tough.
If you need a mate get a dog. Al Dunlap (Packers old helper had two dogs just to be safe).
I am not saying I am the perfect dad, far from it, I learn a new thing everyday and make many mistakes. But I will say my sons are not my mates and never will be and they know this.
Author: maccamax Timestamp:- 1/7/2012 9:22:23 AM Subject: Re: More bad behaviour from Aussie
Message: Timesman ...Good one . If you find the answer please let me know . I have about 20 out there who I can sign you up to. I find the great grankids are far better ,. My eldest is 16 and terrific to turn to if you need advice . Bbecause he knows EVERYTHING .
Author: Timesman Timestamp:- 30/6/2012 1:57:04 PM Subject: Re: More bad behaviour from Aussie
Message: Macca,
You are a product of your upbringing and your environment (inextricably linked).
There are one to two generations of young adults who society has been left to raise.The parents either don't know how or couldn't be bothered raising them properly (or a blend of both).
A lack of manners of commonplace. It is very easy to have the one minute of fun and then burden the world with your offspring, rather than take the time and effort to raise them properly.
The next time you go to a retail shop listen for the number of people who say "can I have" or "I'll have". I often wait to see if there is a please or a thank you. Most times there is a thank you.
I am not saying Tomic is the above but he is most definitely a product of his upbringing as we all are.
Gee I love attempting to raise well mannered boys.
Author: pigracer Timestamp:- 29/6/2012 8:54:21 AM Subject: Re: More bad behaviour from Aussie
Message: Has anyone noticed that the main culprits are mostly trained by their father. All seem to have the ability,but most seem to lack motivation. Just waiting for Bernard Tomic to settle down and drop the playboy lifestile whilst still young enough. As Gary Player once said"the harder I work the luckier I get" Guess it's still hard to put an old head on young shoulders.
Author: maccamax Timestamp:- 28/6/2012 8:41:48 PM Subject: Re: More bad behaviour from Aussie
Message: Our latest tennis boy with personality disorders is only taking the next steo up from telling Police they were below him in lifes pecking order . Sad to see when recent years we are used to gentlemen like Federer and Nadal plus many others at the top level. Hopefully this Psycho can be dissolved into the has beens basket sooner rather than later. Sam has gone west again ... not our Wimbleton and I think Patsy's mob are going to give us a hard time at the Olympics too. I experienced their terror when I housed a few of their Rugby Supporters when that famous Wilkinson kick decided the result. They were heartless [ I had not long had heart surgery so my powers to drink them under was destroyed }... Very good time tho ... I still have contact with them .
Author: saintly1996 Timestamp:- 28/6/2012 10:16:37 AM Subject: Re: More bad behaviour from Aussie
Message: I agree that this Wimbledon has been a shocker for the Aussies, and the behaviour of one of those especially whilst disappointing, was not totally unexpected. He has form re this kind of behaviour, and it won't be the last outburst I am afraid. He will find the going very tough, as he is not as good as the publis want him or expect him to be.
I do however think you are being quite harsh (as usual), by labelling just the Aussies as sore losers, and questioning their behaviour. I have seen many different players from many different countries do far worse this year alone, let alone in previous years.
Think back to Baghdatis at the Aussie open, the usual Rod******* rants, Serena Williams one more than one ocassion, and even Nalbandian on the grass this year more than once.
The tennis brats are on the march, and to label just the Aussie behaviour as bad, is not looking at the whole picture.
Author: Khaptingly Timestamp:- 27/6/2012 4:57:19 PM Subject: Re: More bad behaviour from Aussie
Message: And what sort of example is smashing a tennis racquet as you walk off the court.
What sort of an example is that to those watching. Especially kids who aspire to be players of the future.
Our current tennis standing is so bad that we are already out of the mens singles draw at Wimbledon. It is 74 years since this happened, but our recent record is attrocious regardless. Given the way Aussies and especially kids, have been turned off by Aussie bozos like BT and LH in recent times it is probably reasonable to assume our place in world tennis can only get worse. Is that possible. Hardly.
Any boring incapable bozo who smashes his racquet should be outed from the game or given a fine big enough to buy 10000 Aussie kids a new racquet.
It might also help the kids of today to stop loitering the streets and get them to be useful or do something of worth for once.
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