Racing and Sports now moderates the Talkback forum to ensure posting guidelines are adhered to.
The views expressed on Talkback are those of the writer and not necessarily those of Racing and Sports. You must be a registered user to write postings or send messages to other users. Click here to register.
Author: the urger Timestamp:- 2/7/2012 8:35:47 PM Subject: Any of you guys into fishing?
Message: (Besides Khap of course). Just wondering if any of you guys are into wetting a line. I'm right into my beach fishing and have been mad keen all my life and was just seeing if there are any other anglers on this site whether it be reef,beach or freshwater,plastics or bait, and what species you like targeting in your particular area. I fish the Gold Coast beaches a lot chasing Tailor,Bream,the odd Mulloway(no trophy ones as yet)and Australian Salmon(pretty much the scourge of most Tailor fishermen and are only good for crab pots but they are great sport on 3kg line.) Used to have a boat and liked going offshore but found it was always blowing a gale whenever I got time off work so decided to sell it and concentrate on the beach. Just seeing if there are any other tragics on here.
Author: Capekid Timestamp:- 8/7/2012 9:55:59 AM Subject: Re: Any of you guys into fishing?
Shocker for it but getting lazy with each year on the clock. Got spoilt/ruined having lived on Cape York and the Torres Strait for 20 years including 12 at a lovely place called Lockhart River on the east coast directly accross from Weipa. Untouched rivers in the Lockhart, Pascoe, Olive, Claudie etc when its blowing and all the broad acre options the reef provides from playing in the 'kiddies pool' with the kids to serious sea monters off the outer barrier only 19kms off shore. Guess I've handed the battern to my lads to some degree and, though we all live in Brizvagas now, they still scab a few particularly pelagics. To be honest I used to be a good and cunning fisherman before I went north but when everything is where its supposed to be you lose your "cunnig" edge and get lazy being so spoilt for so long. Take notice of old mate's rap for Mapoon too. Its a great spot with outstanding Barra, Threadie, and Muddie fishing and the Wenlock really is a special place having kayaked down its length a couple of times.....beautifull! Having said all that I still sneek out now and again and love it.....Sat arvo's are of course on our mutual folly so there are some constraints.
no mate, not in Brisbane river. Play golf with a bloke who is a mad Jew angler, reckons he's caught them in the river but they are full of worm, guessed most fish probably were so have never entertained the idea. He targets nothing inshore of Straddie now
Author: the urger Timestamp:- 5/7/2012 4:49:56 AM Subject: Re: Any of you guys into fishing?
Message: justlikejoe, Do you chase any Threadies in the Brisbane River and if so do you have any tips? I've only ever caught two smaller ones,no metre plus ones you constantly see people holding up in photos.
Thruya That was a good read mate made me laugh,I guess fishing isn't made out for everybody hey. I've been in the seafood industry for the last 20 years so I'm a bit spoilt for choice so for me fishing isn't all about getting a feed (although I'll never knock back fresh Whiting or surf caught Bream). People think I'm mad working with fish and then trying to catch them but it's is a great way to release the valve at the end of the day and get rid of all the built up stress,a kind of meditation if you will.
Todman I used to supply Wynnum Fish Markets when the Chinese had it,such a waste of a good spot these days.So much potential. Manly Fish Cafe and Pelicans Nest are also good places to have a feed of fish and chips as well.
Author: quezacotl Timestamp:- 5/7/2012 3:20:10 AM Subject: Re: Any of you guys into fishing?
Message: Longodds, not originally a Forster boy, grew up in Sydney actually western suburbs, but parents moved out of the big smoke to Forster when I was in 2nd or 3rd form in high school.
I grew up in the burbs of Sydney out Georges hall - Bankstown way, pretty much got started with fishing by catching mullett, bream and eels in the Georges River not far from my house actually, with my neighbors n mates as kids, remember we had one poxy rod each, cheap n nasty threadline reels, a loaf of bread, some knicked hooks n sinkers and would use chunks of styrofoam or wine corks for floats for the mullet. If we caught one we would turn it into bait for eels n bream etc..
Then one year the old man bought a half cabin boat, some decent rods n reels etc, and we would go pumping nippers off the flats at mianbar on the Saturday arvo, get a bucket full, keep em alive overnight with a little pump n some water, then first light launch the boat into Botany bay head for this nice protected spot to fish off the end of the runway extension. The water was DEEEEEEEEEP as off the end of those rock walls I tell ya..
Now that's where I really became hooked on fishing, Jesus there was some variety in this one spot we found out there, there was some massive odd unknown monsters that would come through there every so often and completely clean us up big time, we would bag, Trevally, Snapper, Tailor, John Dory, hair tail, Flatty's, Morwong and the odd garfish, baracuda and small mackerel...
I loved it when the old man said we were hitting the runway in the morning with boat, it always got the excitement up did that.
We also found a hole in Yowie bay during that period too that would produce as many leatherjackets as you could catch, great place to take mum and the relo's for calm family fishing days and fair dinkum we would chow down on those leatheries, that's some of the sweetest tasting fish ever seriously.
When we moved north to Forster we didn't take the boat, as the old man was less interested in the work involved with boats and their upkeep etc, so it was a whole new environment and different types of fishing to explore, all land based but crikey the options up there were outrageous, and Longodds just on Seals Rocks, I've never actually fished there to this day, I've surfed the point there many times but never taken the rods n gear out there to this day, having said that, there is a 4x4 track about half way down Seal Rocks road off the left hand side that takes you to a bullsh!t hotspot off the rocks.
Dead set though, it's freaky remembering which sand tracks to take, and not get lost though, you need to really know how to 4x4 in steep soft sand too, because the decent down to the clearing is very steep, and if you don't know how to get the revs just right to launch out of there you can be caught there for days, tip over backwards or get bogged very easily. A mate showed me that spot sheepishly one day when he was more than likely up to some other misadventure in the bush.
Most of my good fishing spots in Forster and Tuncurry have come from spending thousands of hrs looking and trying different things in various spots... like this drummer hole, you wouldn't even know it was there if i didn't show you..
It's actually on the side of a hill across from house's, in a relatively busy residential area, you park the car alongside this massive hedge, strap all your gear on and then step back onto the road and literally hurl yourself through a huge lantana bush out onto a steep rock ledge, there are 2 big fat branches that you must grab for as you plough through the lantana otherwise you'll end up 25 feet down the side of the rocks with a busted leg at worst, so you grab the branches, and then it's a series of steps down facing the ocean not the rock face, and then a fair dinkum free fall slide between two rocks for about 10 feet to land on this one platform, then it's a series of skips across open water ledges and rocky ledges to the actual hole to fish, the hole it'self is only about 8feet wide, and you have to cast into it from a ledge that barely has room for your 2 feet to stand on..
You climb up to this little peak on the rocks, place your 2 feet on this flat rock, it's safe behind you obviously but if you fall forward then you are in some serious strife, you stand on this tiny flat rock and cast into this 8 foot wide hole in the rocks about 10 feet away and in front of you, and just let the bait wash around...hold just enough line in your fingers to allow the bait to sink a wee bit and lock off the reel...then BANG..!!!
I only found that spot because one day there was no surf so we were all bored as hell and decided to snorkel from South one mile beach right around the headland to the nudey beach for something to do. I spotted the pigs darting in and out of this cave when snorkeling but didn't say anything to the guys i was with, and made a point to landmark the cave by surfacing and noticing something on land so I could find it again, the house with the orange gate and timber veneer was it, if I didn't landmark it, to this day I doubt anyone would even know it existed or ever fished it.
The game fishing off the rocks at Shelly point when the warm currents were around Jan to May was as good as anywhere I've seen in the world actually and I've fished Thailand off boats for sails n marlin, but Shelly point was incredible. I'm kind of glad it has become an area prohibited for fishing now because there was more n more touro's coming up from Sydney and trashing the place incessantly and the fights were getting out of control between some blokes...but damn, the fish I've seen landed out there, fair dinkum to this day blow my mind, this one guy in particular one day landed a 67kg Cobia and a 110kg striped Marlin him and his mate had set up very early one night and were there for 3 days on the rocks, that one day I was just out for a look and hurling slugs for a few hrs for stripeys n bonny's and saw this guy and his mate land those two beauty's...amazing stuff.
Up at Forster some of the best kept secrets are hard to get to spots, they are between Janies corner (northern end of 7 mile beach) and the Southern end of One mile beach, Cape Hawke is the headland, some of the rock and cove beach fishing between those 2 points is out of this world, most of it you simply cannot access due to inhospitably rough terrain or unless you can get permission from the Underwoods who own the land that backs onto the middle of Cape Hawke, but I tell ya the 2 times I've gained access to walk out there through their property I was dead set blown away, both times me and my mate came back with 15-20kilo kingy's, 4-8kg stud drummer, big Snapper with huge knobs on their heads 8-12kg jobs, and fark me some giant tailor like I've never seen..my mate landed one out there on the first trip one winters day out there at 15-16kg..I kid you not, massive greeback with thickness, he thought he was onto a tuna it went that hard...just unreal ledges, gutters and holes that are unspoiled and rarely if ever fished out there.
Joe- I've heard of that pig spot at Wotamolla actually, me old man used to love checking out all the spots in the national park down there and he told me there was blokes out there getting pigs n nigga's on "bread" of all things, reckons they were burleying em up heavy and killing em.
I remember the South end of Garie beach was a hot spot too, well it was when I was I kid, we used to surf there as youngun's on the weekends sometimes, and in between surfs we'd walk up to the rock ledge on the south end and watch these geezers with massive surf rods and overhead casting reels land these mammoth tailor and aussie salmon on pilchards on ganged hooks, the beach it's self is a noted jewy hot spot at night apparently, but the night me and the old man tried, he hooked up onto something just with a half pilchard on 2 ganged hooks that literally took the entire contents of his undersized thread line reel out to sea and went bye bye to NZ, so that was a disaster that night, I remember because we hadn't been there long and we had to pack up n go home cause he got spooled...lol
Author: quezacotl Timestamp:- 5/7/2012 1:45:22 AM Subject: Re: Any of you guys into fishing?
Message: LOL @ Thruyakik...you are the type of bloke I curse after hearing stories like that jewie catch..fair dinkum..!!
I remember very clearly one day I had got my wetty on and was walking the Tuncurry breakwall with my board heading out for a surf on Tuncurry peaks side, and I noticed there was a crowd gathering around this one angler who was into something...
Turns out this Guy came up from Sydney the night before with his family on holiday, they had just bought brand new gear for himself and the family that morning at the local tackle store, & apparently..according to this old bloke I quizzed his 2nd cast out into the fast moving tidal water between the Forster n Tuncurry breakwalls. with a huge half frozen dirty old piece of squid on, and he's hooked something big...
I stood there in disbelief sucking on a durry when with the help of a couple of local on lookers..he lands a 60lb Jewfish...
I kid you not...I believe the picture is still in the window of the Tuncurry tackle store...i shook my head and congratulated him as I told him I've been trying to catch one of those buggers for 20 years and never succeeded..
Message: I used to be keen back in the day. cape byron was my hunting ground. plenty of tailor and bream, sometimes a spotted hind or a turrum. i used to get the odd jew, usually at night with a big swell. Big pink lures were the go or otherwise fresh octopus if you could get it. i actually caught most on pilchard or garfish fishing for tailor. the most remarkable weekend thete were heaps of 2 pound tailor around but i kept getting smashed up, hooks straightened etc. I had a big live bait hook in the bag and put it on, and hooked up. was blown away to see a 5 kilo snapper surface. i think sometimes they come in close to spawn. they were thick for a couple of days but havent got one off the rocks since. these days im into the soft plastics in the pumicestone passage, get a few lizards every trip
i used to chase the Bream and Whiting pretty hard on the Southern beaches of the coast on worm. The Dart just used to hammer me however so i gave it away.
The old man and i in recent years have targetted the Pimpama river for Lizards using squidgies,we've landed and released some monsters. We also drift the open water behind Couran for Jack and have quite alot of success just flicking squidgies.
Quez, agree re the pigs, when i was a teenager living in Sydney, i used to tag along with Dad to Wottamolla in the national park, wicked walk in, long one out with a bag fish, longer without. Bream on the run out, pigs on the run up, chaotic at times and dangerous in a big swell. But fabulous fighters and we did copious qtys of gear.
We head to Mapoon north of Weipa every year chasing threadfin on super light gear, unbelievable fighting fish and they are awesome eating. There is the "odd" muddie around as well!!! We are good mates with the pro up there, it is dead set fill up time for crab.
I dont know about Aussie Salmon fishcakes but gee Bonito come up a treat fishcaked, bleed them straight away, cut out the bloodline and ur in for a good feed. We used to get them by the truckload of Avoca rocks in the 80's chasing Kingies, threw most of them back or used them as bait til a Maltese mate cued us up on the fish cakes.
Author: thruyakik Timestamp:- 4/7/2012 3:53:27 PM Subject: Re: Any of you guys into fishing?
Message: No good at it, gave it up. Give me a steak or rack o'lamb.
I could throw a perfectly good line in and it comes out, bait-less with knots that harry hoodini wouldn't be able to undo. Are there 'knot tying' fish?
Tried mimicking the blokes spinning from the jetty. So I bought a $6 lure (coulda bought a fish for that), headed down there, put on a filthy jacket, lit up a smoke and started mimicking best of em. A fish jumped on so said, 'phaark, mate I'm on !'
I noticed the bloke next to me was on too. After he pulled his fish in, it wasn't mine after all, he untangled my my line from his and asked me to move away from him lest he 'throw me in the drink'. I packed up to leave but not before stealing one of his many fish flapping around on the jetty.
Fear of being ridiculed, again, by the fun wrecker I was determined to go home with a feed. So I went and tried under the nearest bridge. I gave my lure away to some kid and resorted back to bait (the bloke's fish).
Watching the kids work the lure and wondering 'why can't I do that?' I screamed when felt an enormous heave on my fishing rod. The kids yelled out, let the drag out! . Under their instruction I struggled to pull in my fish. I stared in disbelief at what they called a 'f%#'n big jewie'.
Not sounding very appetising I gave the bloody fish and all my gear to the kids swearing off it forever.
So, once again I went home with takeaway and stinking of fish. The fun wrecker accused me of having an affair.
Author: Moleboy Timestamp:- 4/7/2012 11:37:34 AM Subject: Re: Any of you guys into fishing?
Message: I'm off to chase a few whiting this afternoon. Heading up to the Sunshine Coast and that stretch of beach south of the Point Cartwright headland. Usually a few workable gutters along that stretch.
Nothing too serious. I just need a feed before sundown - then catching up with a mate on the coast to crank the BBQ and watch the footy.
Author: quezacotl Timestamp:- 3/7/2012 7:54:59 PM Subject: Re: Any of you guys into fishing?
Message: Jewies are a total enigma..all my life as a fisherman I've trued to nail one, had plenty of runs and mouthed baits but no serious hook ups...they are generally caught in a very small time frame window, tide, moon, bait, getting the bait to drift right over their nose's etc..
There have been some monsters caught off Forster Breakwall over the years, frustratingly some of them caught by the casual angler during the day who are just tossing out pilchards on ganged hooks looking for bream or tailor..the trick with getting the bait to them on the breakwall, is casting the bait far enough up and weight of sinker to get it down deep enough with a moving tide, it's all guesswork because the gutters shift and change nearly every tide.
Author: Longodds Timestamp:- 3/7/2012 7:49:33 PM Subject: Re: Any of you guys into fishing?
Message: Foster boy hey Quez.
I'm assuming you've had a few trips for a camp and fish to Seal Rocks and a walk down behind the Lighthouse for some drummer and blue groper? Not a bad luderick hole down there as well. Actually there's just about every species you can imagine around that area.
Author: the urger Timestamp:- 3/7/2012 5:12:49 PM Subject: Re: Any of you guys into fishing?
Message: Longodds, I'm no Jew guru but the ones I have caught have been just after dusk around the tide change. They say a dark moon is ideal as well. I've used fresh Tailor fillets and livies but have only ever caught them on super fresh squid,basically restaurant quality stuff. I'm sure beachworms would work a treat as well. I've caught more in the Brisbane River than on the beach though. They tend to mouth the bait and then run but I let them go until they drop the bait and when they run a second time is when I strike. For a big fish they do seem to give up the ghost pretty easily though,after the second run they tend to come in belly up. Like first four and quaddie jackpot divdends the trophy ones seem to be forever elusive and the domain of only a select few anglers. Maybe one day.
Moley Great time to be fishing the Coast at this time of year hey.Beautiul clear skies,light winds and generally smaller swells. I fish mainly Phillip Park and another spot just down from the pumping jetty.I tend to avoid Narrowneck as it can get a bit crowded at times. I gather you're using worms and or pippies for your Whiting and Bream? If you're fishing that light I bet those elbow slappers would give you a good run. A guy next to me was catching some nice Whiting in close the other day. Man they taste great. I mainly target them in summer and chase the bigger fish in winter. I only use Bonito at this time of year,I find it's a good bait for large Bream and Dart,the Salmon readily take it as do the Tailor although that usually results in bite offs as I'm only using thin mono and small no2 hooks. If the Tailor are on and I'm getting bitten off regularly and nothing else is getting a look in I'll swap to thin nylon coated wire. Although the bites will drop off you can still hook up a few decent sized ones if they're in the mood.
Quezz Mate sounds like those Drummer hit harder than John Bonham ever did :-)
Author: Moleboy Timestamp:- 3/7/2012 7:45:03 AM Subject: Re: Any of you guys into fishing?
We should talk.
I'm fishing a little lighter than you (chasing whiting and bream mainly) but I do enjoy fishing the beaches in the same neck of the woods as you.
I've never targeted Mulloway, but it's on my bucket list.
p.s. if you bleed salmon straight away and take out the blood line when you fillet them, I believe you can make a reasonable fishcake that will keep you alive. I doubt I would bother, but I'm sure the cat wouldn't mind.
Author: quezacotl Timestamp:- 2/7/2012 10:00:12 PM Subject: Re: Any of you guys into fishing?
Message: Nothing wrong with Aussie Salmon, if you bleed them straight away they are good tucker.
Bonito are awesome too, filleted and crumbed they have a nice texture like chickenn.
I liked chasing pelagics off the rocks in the warmer months, cobia, stripeys, Northern Bluefin and the odd striped marlin..my favorite spot was the headland around Shelley Beach south of Forster. It is now a marine park and fishing from that area is prohibited, but for years from February to May, used to head there at 3am, unload the ute and prep for the 1 hr hike in the dark around the cliff tops and bush track, teeter around this one very dodgey narrow ledge and then set up camp on the rocks, first job was to blow up the kiddies pool, bucket some salt water into it and get to filling it full of slimy mackerel..first few casts with the bait catching rigs told if the day was ging to be good, then as soon as I had a dozen in the pool, get the game rig out and drop one out under a ballon, and carefully allow it to drift out with currents into the open, and set the drag and place the game rod in the holders we cemented into place..then wait for the sceaming reel...whilst waiting I would hurl silver slugs out off an overhead ABU 50 odd yards out, rip em back in as fast as possible, and nearly every cast get smashed on the rip back in by tuna, kingfish and bonito.
Great fun, my best live baiter balloon catch being a northern Bluefin Tuna 32kg landed and gaffed on my own off 15 kg line. When the Tuna & Cobia were on it was just mayhem, sometimes every single angler would hook up at once and total carnage ensued with lines and reels screaming everywhere, people yelling out and rods going flying down the rocks...
Also loved fishing for blackfish with green weed under home made floats along the Forster breakwall and one of my favorites was dropping cubes of pilchard with no sinker on firewire line underneath the Forster fish co-op wharf/jetty in the middle of winter at night for stud 3-5 kg bream....also had a secret drummer hole I used to frequent around Cape Hawke headland but would only hit it when the cunje was prevelant and easy to collect..one afternoon .this one hole produced 12 super stud drummer, the smallest weighing 3kg the largest an 8 kg monster...broke two rods fishing that hole for those bastids..jesus they were tough buggers, no sinker just cunje placed on super tuff chemically sharpend hooks dropped carefully into the small pool in the rocks which then drifted down under into a cave with the wash..then BAM..just pull back against them as hard as possible with absolutely NO DRAG and hope to hell the gear holds on and doesnt break...they could break 15kg line and snap FSU blanks in a an instant...awesome fun.
I've tried for a king sized jew all my life and as yet never landed one..one day..one day I'll go back home to Forster and catch the elusive monster...
This site is maintained by Racing and Sports (®) Pty Ltd (ABN 093 360 108) ("R&S").
Copyright in all R&S materials is owned by Racing and Sports Pty Ltd (R&S).
Racing and Sports is a Registered Trademark.
R&S takes all care in the preparation of information appearing on the site, but accepts no responsibility nor warrants the accuracy of the information displayed.
This information is provided for entertainment purposes only. All information including race fields and TAB numbers should be checked with an official source.