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Message: Where does he rate... above Sunline/Northerly/Might&Power... somewhere between them and Black Caviar and Makybe Diva?
To me, what happened to him was one of the great tragedies of Australian racing. He was 'stolen' in the dark of night and taken to Europe and given to a trainer who took 18 month to work him out. Finally when he admitted he had at last got it right, he wins one more G1 and now he's finished.
If he'd been handled right and placed right, he might have been unbeaten in Europe and should never raced in the US and in Dubai.
It's perhaps the greatest testament to the horse that despite the bungles in Ireland he still won 5 Group 1's in the northern hemisphere? So long, So You think.
Author: Whips Timestamp:- 16/7/2012 11:55:29 PM Subject: Re: The end for So You Think
Message: "Huge strength in Europe over the mile"
That huge they race in twos, nothing like a sling shot from a stablemate. Pitty they are hopeless outside there backyard, lol. So where is the depth from UK, thats right its all bought in. Plenty of depth of B graders alright.
Funny how Patsy names only pommy hacks but rakes in Europe for support. Maybe incl the US and if you close one eye Japan, Dubai are close enough.
Best 2000m, horse from Aus 2400m Arc won by german horse Plenty of depth over the jumps though!!
For the volume of horses bred from the UK they cant even do that right, we know trainers are average by there own admission, lolol.
Author: maccamax Timestamp:- 16/7/2012 5:12:31 AM Subject: Re: The end for So You Think
Message: I have always been led to believe the strength of UK racing was in it's stayers by a long way. How come they find the greatest Racehorse of all times , Racing in the admitted , very weak area of horses they have contesting the shorter events.
Author: MD Timestamp:- 15/7/2012 12:51:00 PM Subject: Re: The end for So You Think
Message: "THE OTHER WOULD BE IN THE TOP 5 AUSTRALIAN 2000m HORSES OF ALL TIME"
More clueless lies from the soap-dodger who needs to invent new aliases to get any support. I know you have a massive chip on the shoulder, but you really shouldn't let it bother you so much that we don't fall for hype as easily as you do.
Author: Rambo Timestamp:- 15/7/2012 8:53:52 AM Subject: Re: The end for So You Think
Message: "Know your place.."
Patsy , face facts, our horses have an incredible strike rate over in Europe. And many of these were not champions in this part of the world. Get over it!!
And posters on here are 100% correct to question Frankel's rating as the greatest ever. Obviuosly an incredible horse, but let's see him smash some genuine Group 1 horses over 10f before we give him that label, not seeing him beat up on the same weak bunch of milers every race.
You are an arrogant joke that has been on an Aussie forum for 10 years rubbishing our horses. Just about every thread gets hijacked with your rantings. If I had been denigrating Euro horses on a UK site for half as long, you would consider me a raving lunatic. Take a look in the mirror mate!!
As other poster have said, this has been done to death. Enough!!
Author: Whips Timestamp:- 14/7/2012 4:45:43 PM Subject: Re: The end for So You Think
Message: That’s almost right Patsy, its 99.99% of the UK that think he is a freak, the rest of the world know better. Why it makes you bitter is something for you to contemplate. I guess Frankel racing against also rans makes it difficult to accept and might have something to do with it.
Author: MD Timestamp:- 14/7/2012 12:45:53 PM Subject: Re: The end for So You Think
Message: RockyRegFagan you gullible liar - there is no doubt Frankel's a very good horse, but you carry on like he's the greatest ever when he is beating the same old plodders every race, over the same distance and hasn't moved out of his back yard.
As someone said previously, Aus/NZ horses just won G1s at your top carnival - nice effort that given we can't produce any good ones. Poor old poms have to rely on the rest of Europe to have anything decent at any distance other than a mile.
Author: Whips Timestamp:- 14/7/2012 12:33:12 PM Subject: Re: The end for So You Think
Message: It would be typical of an arrogant Patsy to think 99.99% of the world is the UK, blinkers on you might say. What a clown.
With the public ridicule of Frankels rating, even by the British Horseracing Authority, the high number would be publicly explained. But when its based on hype egg on face doesnt sit too well with authorities, and that gives oxygen to the Patsy hype, a waste of good oxygen I mught add.
The funny bit is Patsy thinks he is convincing everyone, great entertainment value atleast.
Author: Whips Timestamp:- 13/7/2012 12:45:21 AM Subject: Re: The end for So You Think
Message: Considering SYTs hopeless trainer made a mess of him, sent in underdone and some second class rides he was clearly a modern day great in the UK. What he achieved in top company was outstanding during arguably one of the silliest put together campaigns for a long time particularly the dirt races.
For a laugh check out the list of nobodies behind Frankel and his scintillating 0.75L to Zoffany. Wouldn’t win a trick in Aus but that’s even a delinquent knows that, all hype but that’s what the kids like.
In case you missed it………………
While you rave on like a lunatic Patsy you will always be the butt of the joke. If your understanding is that poor that you value getting carted for 5f then gapping a pathetic field as an all-time best in 64yrs performance then best you try cooking classes.
The track tested good on the straight too for good measure to further deflate the effort.
So if you want to sound like a whoopee cushion with a set of lips on it banging like a dunny door, then by all means. The whole world is laughing at you fool.
Message: no let's just talk garbage for another 2 weeks then..
So You Think displayed god like pegasus like ability in Europe with those narrow wins over snow fairy and workforce,the loss to cirrus des aigles and danedream and rewilding,the failures in dubai and america and the scintillating 2 length win over Carlton house and Farhh.
Very Very good horse but if anyones trying to tell me he's an all time great in Europe,I can't agree,in Australia of course yes.
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