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Message: The Masters has sneeked up on us again. With all the good racing at the moment, it may have been overlooked. Golf throws up some value winnersif you can aim the dart right.
Currently Tiger is favourite at around the $5 mark, which seems unders given his form (lack of wins) at the moment. Mickelson is @ about $9 and is in pretty good form, but has a shocking record in majors. Vijay Singh is about the same price and has some solid form around him. He also seems to be a tough bastard and would have to rate as a big chance.
Defending champion Weir is at about $25 and has been playing well. Titleholders don't seem to back up though. Padraig Harrington is the top ranked European and is in good form at the minute and is at about the $21 mark. He seems like a reasonable bet to me (each way). Perhaps a saver on Singh to win. What do others think? Cheers LD
Author: hondo Timestamp:- 15/4/2004 8:51:02 PM Subject: Re: US Masters
Message: Pinkline Yes Greg won. He always wins. They are sending Matt Shirvington and the captain of the Socceroos over to present the jacket. It is similar to the one that Robert Redford wore in the Ëlectric Horseman". Lots of flashing lights spelling out his title. DUD How can they say Mickelson was the unluckiest player not to have won a major. They should have some respect for our stellar dud.
Author: Lagent Timestamp:- 15/4/2004 2:51:05 PM Subject: Re: US Masters
Message: See if this clears it up…..as per earlier postings, I find that betting at the beginning of a tournament offers no value (as does Tiger at 5/1); and the only golf betting that seems to work for me is a punt at the halfway mark of a tournament.
This years Masters was a no bet for me, as I didn’t like anyone after the second round. I looked at Phil, but couldn’t bring myself to throw good money after bad (great decision wasn’t it!).
I know I am not alone in backing Phil Mickelson previously and being burnt. That is one long list of punters!
I don’t dislike Phil nor not rate his golf (my pun was meant as a sarcastic gag) That is why I referred to Phil was a bookies dream. Everyone I know of or have spoken to are sworn off him (except JR on this thread) and now he comes out and wins....
Author: Lagent Timestamp:- 15/4/2004 10:52:00 AM Subject: Re: US Masters
Message: Thats the problem with the written word - it is difficult to express sarcasm.
Cat, I don't really believe he is the most ordinary golfer to win a major. I actually think he is a fine golfer too, it is just hard to forgive betting losses.
Message: Anyone who can shoot 31 for the back nine on Sunday at Augusta, under the sort of pressure he would have been under, more than deserves their victory. Outstanding performance.
Message: Can't agree with you there Daytripper, there is no 'form' in golf. Performances differ enormously from week to week. Players might play a certain course well, in general, but that's not enough to bet on. No value at all in golf betting in my opinion. Apart from laying Tiger of course!
Author: catweazle Timestamp:- 14/4/2004 10:06:55 AM Subject: Re: US Masters
Message: Congrats JR. It was great viewing on Monday morning, even though I'd done my money. You must've loved it when that last putt snuck in the back of the cup.
I'd sworn off Mickelsen in majors. In hindsight though, 3 top 3 finishes in the previous 3 years, how the heck didn't I factor that in before the event.....
Author: Daytripper Timestamp:- 8/4/2004 7:33:47 PM Subject: Re: US Masters
Message: Pinkline - please go - this is a serious discussion. Your comments are not funny and are not welcome.
Lagent, Have to agree with Catweasle. Golf is the best value betting medium going around. All you need is one winner for the year and you will be ahead. But you must be prepared to put some work into it and study as much form as possible. You will be rewarded handsomely if you make the right decisions.
Author: Lagent Timestamp:- 8/4/2004 4:33:10 PM Subject: Re: US Masters
Message: Good work if you can get a result out of golf Cat. All I know is that bookies love betting the golf. Apart from Tigers big winning streak 18+ months back - it is just cream to them.
Suppose my point was (which you highlighted as well) - a tiger in indifferent form is questionable value at 5/1 in a 90 strong field.
Author: catweazle Timestamp:- 8/4/2004 1:28:07 PM Subject: Re: US Masters
Message: Lagent, you would be suprised. I keep itemised records on all my sportsbetting and over the years have tried AFL, cricket, golf, tennis, soccer and basketball.
I have given tennis, soccer and basketball the flick because I can't get a regular return out of them.
Golf, along with cricket, every year provides me with the best return on investment.
The great thing is you can spread your bets around several players given the huge odds available.
Of course you don't win every tournament, but no-one wins on every horse race either.
You say Woods is not value at $5, but his Augusta record as a pro is 3 wins in 8 attempts, so $5 is not unreasonably short (despite his relatively indifferent form at present).
He is 1 of 6 players I have backed this tournament, along with Harrington, Weir, Perry, Olazabal and Chad Campbell.
If any of these win, I will more or less triple my money, if they don't I'm still well ahead for the year.
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