Click here to go back to previous pageMakybe Diva Foals Lonhro Colt
Tuesday, 16 August 2011: Triple Melbourne Cup winner Makybe Diva has produced her fourth foal, a colt by newly crowned Australian champion sire Lonhro.
 | Makybe Diva
Photo by Bronwen Healy | | |
The colt foal was born on on Tuesday at Victoria's Makybe Stud, the nursery of Makybe Diva's owner Tony Santic. It is the first time Makybe Diva has produced a foal in Victoria. "We always wait in anticipation for Makybe Diva to foal and this time was no exception," Santic said. "We are extremely happy that both mum and foal are doing well." Makybe Diva's previous progeny comprise Rockstardom, a four-year-old by Galileo trained by Danny O'Brien, La Dolce Diva, a three-year-old filly by Fusaichi Pegasus with Mark Kavanagh and a two-year-old Encosta De Lago colt. Santic is yet to select a stallion for Makybe Diva this season.  Check out FREE Full Race results for nine separate countries.
Tags: Makybe Diva, Mark Kavanagh, Melbourne Cup, Danny O'Brien, Was, Lonhro
Click here to go back to previous page
 | | Posted by theking, on 12-7-2012 1:57:38 PM
critta,
Just checked the Stud Book.
No name yet! ”
|
| | | Posted by critta, on 11-7-2012 12:44:35 PM
who trains the makybe diva/lorhno colt? and does it have a name yet? ”
|
| | | Posted by theking, on 2-7-2012 7:49:24 PM
Posted by theking, on 16-8-2011 11:30:09 PM
"Santic is yet to select a stallion for Makybe Diva this season."
I am hoping/tipping that she will go to High Chaparral.
Hey, as it turns out my tip was right eventually as they put her to Starspangledbanner prior to being served by High Chaparral.
Now for my next tip.
I''m tipping that this one will turn out to be a beauty.
But I doubt that it is possible that it would have much chance of becoming as good as either Mum or Dad of course.
”
|
| | | Posted by theking, on 29-6-2012 7:36:34 PM
BEN,
Type the names of these Makybe Diva foals into the RECORDS SEARCH above (Horse records) & you will see their racing records.
La Dolce Diva - filly by Fusaichi Pegasus (USA)
Rockstardom - colt by Galileo (Ire) ”
|
| | | Posted by BEN, on 29-6-2012 3:28:25 PM
How long untill we see makybe divas coals start racing ”
|
| | | Posted by Keith Bernard, on 5-12-2011 7:14:03 PM
go home king and stop bullying ronny... ”
|
| | | Posted by theking, on 1-11-2011 11:22:56 AM
Ron Turcotte,
I would be interested in your comments re my previous post to you.
Cheers from,
theking
”
|
| | | Posted by theking, on 25-10-2011 3:55:45 PM
Ron,
I am not looking for an arguement here but I would be interested in your comments re the following as I value your opinion.
I have been intending to get back on here to address the the following for some time now but simply have not been able to find the time until now.
I stand by my earlier comment:
"IMO given that both the Diva and High Chaparral were both excellent 3yos"
(chronolically & physically in Makybe''s case)
"& the fact that High Chaparral has also sired some excellent 3yos I would hazard a guess that a High Chaparral x the Diva would more than likely also perform well as a 3yo."
My point here is that although she was born to Northern hemisphere breeding time her progeny will more than likely be born to Southern hemisphere breeding time.
You said:
"Iglesia, what makes you just assume that all MD had to do was turn up at the right age to win G1 Oaks''races?
Although nothing is certain in racing you would have to agree that based on the the form that Makybe displayed at the CHRONOLOGICAL age of approx 3years and 8 months
(approx age of an AJC Oaks runner)
as follows would suggest that Makybe could have been a very real chance of winning an Oaks had she been born & bred to Southern hemisphere breeding time.
0.1L 1st of 13 9 Nov 2002 FLEMINGTON R8 QUEEN ELIZABETH STAKES (G2) QLTY 2500m G
0.8L 1st of 12 30 Oct 2002 WERRIBEE R6 TOOHEYS NEW WERRIBEE CUP (LR) OPEN 2000m
0.1L 1st of 12 7 Oct 2002 FLEMINGTON R8 JEZABEEL HANDICAP FM 3yo+ OPEN 2000m G
2.5L 1st of 12 17 Sep 2002 BALLARAT R7 CARLTON DRAUGHT HANDICAP CL3 2000m S
1L 1st of 10 3 Sep 2002 SALE R9 HOTELIERS HANDICAP CL1 1700m G
3L 1st of 14 13 Aug 2002 WANGARATTA R1 DAVID SESSIONS BOBCAT HIRE 3yo+ MDN 1600m H
Ron you also said:
"At that age she was winning the Werribee Cup with 51 kgs, receiving 5 kgs from Aquiver, whose second to MD was his only placing in his last 19 races."
To this I say:
She can only beat what there is to beat on the day.
You also said:
MD was a late bloomer and was not a G1 horse as a filly.
To this I say:
Yes, you are correct she was not a G1 winner as a filly
BUT
I do not agree with your:
"MD was a late bloomer"
How could you possibly call a CHRONOLOGICALLY aged 3yo a late bloomer whe she had the ability to win six races from six starts culminating in a Listed Cup race over 2000m & the G2 Queen Elizabeth stakes over 2500m?
Perhaps you could argue yet again that Makybe did not have much to beat in the VRC QE Stakes but again she can only beat what there is to beat on the day.
BUT
Equally I could argue that the VRC QE Stakes has some pretty handy past winners
eg. Might & Power, Hyperno etc......
Anyway interested to here your comments Ron.
Cheers from,
theking
”
|
| | | Posted by ron turcotte, on 19-10-2011 9:58:50 PM
King, responded the other day, but hasn''t shown up for some reason.
Meant she was a 6yo to NH time. ”
|
| | | Posted by theking, on 11-10-2011 2:44:19 PM
Ron,
You said:
"She didn''t win a G1 race over less than 3200m until she was a 6yo by her body clock."
I was seeking an explanation from you in regard to your use of the term "her body clock" as I was a little unsure of what you meant.
By saying "her body clock" I assume you meant her actual chronological or physical age as opposed to her "age" by southern hemisphere standards which saw her turn one year old on the 1st Aug 99 when her actual chronological age was only approximately 4 months old.
Asssuming that my assumption re your use of the term "her body clock" is correct then should NOT your statement read:
"She didn''t win a G1 race over less than 3200m until she was a "5yo" by her body clock."
as her actual chronological age was just shy of 6yo when she won the G1 Australian Cup 12/3/05.
Hence my request for an explanation.
”
|
| | | Posted by ron turcotte, on 10-10-2011 8:05:20 PM
King, I don''t understand your question. What are you asking me to explain? ”
|
| | | Posted by theking, on 9-10-2011 2:08:52 PM
Ron,
Not quite sure I understand your comment re Makybe Diva:
"She didn''t win a G1 race over less than 3200m until she was a 6yo by her body clock."
Please explain!
”
|
| | | Posted by kickertug, on 7-10-2011 6:13:42 PM
I don''t understand why people think that Makybe Diva''s foals will be any better if she breeds with a horse who was a champion as a three-year-old or a stayer. She is just a bad broodmare. All her foals remain maidens, despite being sired by champions. ”
|
| | | Posted by ron turcotte, on 7-10-2011 1:26:40 PM
Iglesia, what makes you just assume that all MD had to do was turn up at the right age to win G1 Oaks'' races? At that age she was winning the Werribee Cup with 51 kgs, receiving 5 kgs from Aquiver, whose second to MD was his only placing in his last 19 races. MD was a late bloomer and was not a G1 horse as a filly. She didn''t win a G1 race over less than 3200m until she was a 6yo by her body clock. You are just letting idolatry get in the way of common sense. If having common sense is what you call ignorance, I''ll take it every day of the week. ”
|
| | | Posted by Ig, on 3-10-2011 9:08:29 PM
The "important point", Ron, is that, being bred to Northern Hemisphere time, she wasn''t eligible for the Group One staying races, such at the AJC and QTC Oaks, that a filly that is three years and eight months and bred to Southern Hemisphere time would have been able to contest; that is the reason she wasn''t a Group One winning three-year-old, not that she was a dud, as some ignorant people such as you prefer to believe ”
|
| | | Posted by ron turcotte, on 3-10-2011 2:54:07 AM
So what''s the "important point", Iglesia? That at an age when some horses are winning G1''s Makybe Diva wasn''t? ”
|
| | | Posted by Ig, on 25-9-2011 9:38:12 AM
The point that theking makes is an important one because, as pointed out elsewhere on this forum, Makybe Diva was three years and eight months old when she won the Werribee Cup and the Queen Elizabeth (against older horses); at the same age, a filly bred to Southern Hemisphere time would have been racking up Group One wins in races like the AJC and QTC Oaks ”
|
| | | Posted by Sedutrice, on 22-9-2011 12:59:55 PM
This Lonhro colt I think will be the best diva will produce. I can''t wait till it races. I will even name it for them...Londiva...Champion. ”
|
| | | Posted by Ads, on 13-9-2011 10:51:21 PM
The operation is successful in the industry for a reason. I am sure it was a calculated decision ”
|
| | | Posted by theking, on 13-9-2011 1:24:28 PM
Hi there Makybe Diva, you are right of course.
The Diva was bred & foaled to the Northern Hemisphere breeding season time (born 21/3/99)
NOT
to the Southern Hemisphere breeding season time and as such she was technically a 4yo by 1st Aug 02 soon before she started winning races in Aus.
”
|
| | | Posted by Makybe Diva, on 12-9-2011 10:29:18 AM
Hi there King, I only raced once as a 3yo and finished 4th. ”
|
| | | Posted by Dazzler, on 12-9-2011 9:40:29 AM
No problems with stayer to sprinter. But Makybe Diva''s partner choices look really haphazard. Go for an elite stayer- Zabeel or High Chap. ”
|
| | | Posted by theking, on 9-9-2011 1:27:44 PM
katejgt,
You say,
"Doesn''t make sense to me combining a stayer with a sprinter!”
I dont have a problem with them putting a sprinter over a stayer
BUT
I reiterate, I do think it odd that they would put a CHAMPIOM race mare to an as yet UNPROVEN sire.
My point here is that a CHAMPION mare unlike a stallion has a very limited number of progeny that it can produce in its lifetime so why not attemt to hopefully eliminate some of the risk by putting her to well proven sires.
Like I said I dont have a problem with them putting her to a sprinting or semi sprinting sire.
Its such a shame that she missed to More Than Ready.
IMO this stallion (like High Chaparral) would have been an excellent match for her.
”
|
| | | Posted by theking, on 9-9-2011 1:10:19 PM
Lengsel,
You say:
"Maybe they want a horse that they dont have to wait til its at least 5 before they see anything from."
Have to agree with you re Rockstardom (by Gaileo)
BUT
Its worth noting that the Diva won her first 6 starts as a 3yo including a Listed race at her 5th start & a G2 at her 6th start.
Further to this High Chaparral himself was an excellent 3yo who has sired some pretty handy 3yos including So You Think, Shoot Out & Monaco Consul.
IMO given that both the Diva and High Chaparral were both excellent 3yos & the fact that High Chaparral has also sired some excellent 3yos I would hazard a guess that a High Chaparral x the Diva would more than likely also perform well as a 3yo.
”
|
| | | Posted by Lengsel, on 8-9-2011 8:29:06 PM
Maybe they want a horse that they dont have to wait til its at least 5 before they see anything from. Rockstardom might win one of those 3000m races at the valley one day. ”
|
| | | Posted by katejgt, on 8-9-2011 2:13:17 PM
Totally agree theking. Very strange choice of stallion for the Diva. Doesn''t make sense to me combining a stayer with a sprinter! ”
|
| | | Posted by theking, on 8-9-2011 9:55:20 AM
So much for my tip!
"Santic is sending Makybe Diva to their homebred champion Starspangledbanner this spring."
Rather an odd choice IMO, talk about taking a massive punt!
Why put a virtually unproven mare to an UNPROVEN sire?
Yeah, Starspangledbanner was a very good sprinter and yes he is from a very good family.
His 3rd dam (Olympic Aim) produced the great broodmare Circles of Gold.
(dam of Elvstroem & Haradasun)
His sire Choisir was also a GREAT sprinter
AND
He is a very good sire in his own right
BUT
the realty is that he has only sired two G1 winners thus far.
Why put an unproven sire over one of the best staying mares in our racing history?
It doesnt make any sense to me.
BUT
Who knows, I hope I am proven wrong (I often am) lets hope that this mating does in fact produce a GREAT stayer with blinding speed!!!!!!!
”
|
| | | Posted by writeowl, on 21-8-2011 10:58:47 PM
As long as it''s not Purrealist. That''d be pearls before swine. ”
|
| | | Posted by theking, on 16-8-2011 11:30:09 PM
"Santic is yet to select a stallion for Makybe Diva this season."
I am hoping/tipping that she will go to High Chaparral.
”
|
|
|
|
 |  |
| Comment on Breeding World Thankful For Frizette | | • Fair go, leave poor old Brian alone, no need to be cruel, have you no sympathy ... by Stan | | • Escado is a horse who runs around race tracks, and sometimes, he ... by john bodey | | • Escado is a ... by John Dyson | | | Comment on Tinkler Feels 'Betrayed" By Industry | | • Poor Jungle Ruler, is there another prep in store... Talk about flogging the ... by Sarzig | | • all he needed was a good foundation sire like jungle ruler. john bodey tells me ... by theking | | | Comment on Bernardini Colt Sells For $1.2 million | | • Hi, I''m following the horse silver medallion from Uruguay, is located in black ... by Diego heguaburu | | | Comment on Imports Will Make Worthy Sires | | • cmon mangi... he beat nothing for gods ... by theking | | • The turn of foot showed by Reliable Man at Randwick shows he''s no one-pacer. ... by Magi | | • i still believe lion hunter has the best staying blood in the ... by theking | | | Comment on Australian Stud Fees 2013 | | • could u pls have column where stallion owners that have spare nominations can ... by tomq | | | Comment on Fastnet Rock Fee Goes To $275,000 | | • Hey snippet you need to watch the movie Stripes then get back to me. That ... by theking | | • Yeah a champion sire in the year every other stallion had a stunted crop of ... by Snippet | | • just finished tracing uncle mo back to the byerley turk. what great bloodlines! ... by theking | | • Read More Comments on Fastnet Rock Fee Goes To $275,000 | | | Comment on National Sale Features Patinack Mares | | • sorry john i dont know who is using my name? keep me updated old ... by theking | | • Goodbye John Bodey, you have reached your use by date, sorry but its curtains ... by theking | | • this article reminded me of the horse movie stripes. that little black and ... by theking | | • Read More Comments on National Sale Features Patinack Mares | | | Comment on Helsinge Returns To Casino Prince | | • Right, thanks for that Keith.
What* an* ... by eyesore | | • my in depth wiki research has led me to the conclusion that Jungle Ruler would ... by john bodey | | • looks like rocketman and eyesore are theking. what a ... by keith bernard | | • Read More Comments on Helsinge Returns To Casino Prince |
|
|
