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 Author: Deadant66
Timestamp:- 22/6/2008 1:04:12 PM
Subject: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
On the "World Stage"
I would like to know what are the forums ideas on:
The Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements:
To start off my top 5 in no particular order are:
1983 Americas Cup
1966 Jack Brabham F1 Constructors/Drivers Championship
Herb Elliot 1960 Rome 1500m(20m win,still a record)
Mick Doohan 500cc World Champ 94/95/96/97
1987 Australian cricket Team World Cup Win
P.S.
Honourable mention:Pat Cash 1987 Wimbledon
Cheers
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 Author: Mr Lister
Timestamp:- 2/7/2008 10:48:15 PM
Subject: Re: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
LC, I'm with greyshot on this one. 'Coloured' is a term used in Sth Africa to describe those that have coloured skin but are not of African origin ie;Indian, Malaysian, mixed race etc.
It is not a term that has ever been part of the Australian vernacular in my opinion and I would find it most disappointing if it did creep into our language and the way we describe people based on the colour of their skin. I actually find it disappointing full stop when people are given a descriptive name which is aimed at grouping them as something other than caucasian purely because they don't have white skin. It is systematic of racial classification and is abhorent in my mind. People are people, no matter the racial origin and there is no need to break things into categories because of skin.
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 Author: lostclarity
Timestamp:- 2/7/2008 12:12:34 PM
Subject: Re: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
Landy also knew who he was up against. I thought they made something out of it to inflate the mythical Australian spirit.
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 Author: greyshot
Timestamp:- 1/7/2008 12:49:35 PM
Subject: Re: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
Lost one,
Are you originally from South Africa ?
I can't remember ever hearing an Australian use the term "coloured ?"
Some of Australias World Champions include:
Lester Ellis
Jeff Harding
Rocky Matioli
Barry Michael
Lionel Rose
Johnny Famechon
Jeff Fenech.
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Author: lostclarity
Timestamp:- 30/6/2008 11:38:01 PM
Subject: Re: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
It's hard to miss everything like you just did. Never get into a pissing competition with a skunk.
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 Author: glencoe
Timestamp:- 30/6/2008 8:24:16 PM
Subject: Re: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
Lost mind,
I deliberately excluded those with a small amount of native genes.....i don't think anyone is mistaking Cathy Freeman and lionel Rose for an irishman.
And as for your Muhammad Ali theory, what the hell was that? All the great heavywights before and since have been American negros, but you believe that that concept is somehow irrelevant to the best one of the lot.
And no-one , and i mean no-one, attributes Woods's golfing ability to his racial background. Most of the greats have had bleached-blonde hair in that sport.
What a mug.
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Author: lostclarity
Timestamp:- 30/6/2008 6:23:06 PM
Subject: Re: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
glencoe, Having aboriginal blood is a very different thing from declaring these achievers fullbloods. So few are. Why is it six point something percent of aboriginal lineage gives one permission to make a full indigenous claim?
It's the hybrids in fact that dominate world-wide. Ali has negro blood' but why hasn't there been an Irish claim on him. And a Cherokee Indian declaration, for that matter.
Tiger Woods is half Thai and they're quiet about him. Not so the coloureds in America.
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Author: glencoe
Timestamp:- 30/6/2008 5:29:54 PM
Subject: Re: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
So Jeff Fenech was not a great boxer, Infidel? Spare me, he had clocked up 3 world titles inside his 4th year as a pro.
Johnny Lewis is also worthy of mention among Australian sporting greats. Although a trainer, his role is as important as a horse trainer, and they get more than their share of accolades.
It is a universal truth in worldwide boxing circles that no-one under 9-6 in the history of the sport could stand up to Fenech. He was unanimously elected into the hall-of-fame in his first year of eligibility. The only others that can claim that achievement are Ali, Louis, Robinson and Salvador Sanchez.
Another great achievement that gets ignored is the general superiority of the Australian Aborigine. They are giants. From a population of 250000 they have achieved like no other.
Wimbledon champs, boxing champs, the ultimate league, union and aussie rules players, Polly Farmer, Mark Ella, Arthur beetson, Greg Inglis, Yvonne Goolagong, Dave Sands, Cathy Freeman......they are in a class of their own. If it wasn't for the excluion of them from cricket, they'd have made great strides in that. Darby McCarthy was another one, in fact they should have made up the bulk of the jockeys, but there's always been something about whites not wanting to sling blackfullas.
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Author: tigerrish
Timestamp:- 29/6/2008 4:52:18 PM
Subject: Re: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
Thanks Tontonan, mine was a guess on the population expanses. Not a real good guess tho....lol
Your figures show we are in the top bracket of sporting nations per head, if not at the top.
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 Author: Tontonan
Timestamp:- 29/6/2008 1:12:48 PM
Subject: Re: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
Tiger.
The US population is 300 million (approx). It is 15 times greater than the population of Australia.
The population of Europe (excluding Russia) is almost 700 million. If you include Russia its 840 million. So its between 33 and 40 times the population of Australia.
Australia has a population of just over 21 million
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Author: lostclarity
Timestamp:- 29/6/2008 11:12:07 AM
Subject: Re: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
Everything is quite simple for you, infidel. Complexities escape you. You won't need three score and ten to sort out life, you have it all laid out. There is such arrogance in your avatar. At least you got that right.
What do your overseas friends think of the fact that you suffer from certainties?
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Author: tigerrish
Timestamp:- 29/6/2008 10:01:25 AM
Subject: Re: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
infidel, you really are an !diot arent you?
You babbled on about Europe, since when was Europe a country?. Break down Europe into their own countries and see just how good they all are at sports outside soccer.
Italy are reigning World Champions at the round ball game, outside of Rossi who is atop of there chosen sport from Italy and how do they fair at other team sports? How about the two teams who made it to the Euro 2008 final, which sportsmen, women or teams are outstanding in other sports from Spain or Germany? Very few.
The USA are powerhouses in basketball, baseball, atheletics and swimming the rest of the sports they compete in they are on an even keel with others.
The US population is 3 times that of Australia, the population of this new country you call Europe is more than 7 times that of Australia.
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 Author: infidel
Timestamp:- 29/6/2008 9:30:51 AM
Subject: Re: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
It is quite simple. The USA and Europe are the sporting powerhouses of sport, always have been. Except in soccer, where it is Europe and South America. If you are playing in sports where the USA and Europe do not seriously compete, you are in the minor league of sport: simple as that.
You can beat up on sporting minnows like Britain, India and Pakistan all you like; the truth is still the truth. Of course, you all know this as well as I do.
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 Author: brownie
Timestamp:- 28/6/2008 8:15:48 PM
Subject: Re: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
LOL
Infidel+dinner parties+international guests+talking swimming
something doesnt add up!
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Author: tigerrish
Timestamp:- 28/6/2008 6:46:31 PM
Subject: Re: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
infidel, considering you bag the heck out of any sport that involves Australia Im sure your overseas guest have a hoot listening to you hack on your own country. "Welcome to Australia, let me tell you just how bad we are..."
But I dont think working in the kitchen at Villawood Detention Centre counts as having "overseas" guests for dinner either, just quietly.
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Author: infidel
Timestamp:- 28/6/2008 4:33:30 PM
Subject: Re: Greatest Australian Sporting Achievements
Message:
You have to make a lot more than 2 or 3 successful title defences to be a great boxer. You prove my point again, ignoramuses.
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