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 Author: patsy fagan
Timestamp:- 4/12/2008 6:02:09 PM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
macca if you read my posts i have always stated that doncaster cup winners and irish st leger winners are far too dour and are full of failed middle distance horses....ive said that for 5 years..
BUT septimus had a bit of class about him and given the pace would be on i thought hed make the frame and his stamina would come into play
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Didnt realise hed be setting the suicidal pace and not take a sit..
If you want to keep harping on about septimus i have every right to keep harping on about all the goods easy win in the 2400m G1 caulfield cup..
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Author: gab
Timestamp:- 4/12/2008 11:09:15 AM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
Patsy, Pink etc...
It never ceases to amaze me how forumites will only attack what suits their own argument. Axl compared Purple Moon's run in the Japan Cup with his effort in last years MC. Fact is the MC is 3200m and the JC is 2400m.
The more pertinent comparison is Purple Moon in last years CC with this years JC-both over 2400m.He was beaten close to 7 lengths in the CC and close to 4 in the JC.
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Author: gab
Timestamp:- 4/12/2008 10:32:11 AM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
Patsy,
Zarkava was a wonder 3yo filly winning a weak Arc. Shame she won't run as a 4yo mare where we could see whether she is the real deal or just a very fast maturer like Miss Finland who couldn't continue in the top grade as she turned 4. Why you would want to compare All The Good with Zarkava is beyond me. All The Good won a weak Caulfield Cup. And yes it was weaker than the Arc and weaker than the Japan Cup.
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 Author: maccamax
Timestamp:- 4/12/2008 1:16:16 AM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
Patsy....Different conditions play tricks.
Septimus 100 yards behind as predicted.
The tactics were pre planned. Set the sizzling pace and run these 2nd graders into the ground with this dour 400m stayer.
Fell on their sword...Melbourne Cup qualifiers arent maidens cantering around on a Sunday picnic as happened in the I.L.
Your original opinion of Septimus did an about face.
Now you jump on another wagon.
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Author: patsy fagan
Timestamp:- 3/12/2008 9:32:51 PM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
so what yr saying gab is that a handicapper from england called ALL THE GOOD, a horse that had never contested a group race,who won the caulfield cup with very little pull in the weights is good enough to win the japan cup over 2400m?
He wouldnt get within a dozen lengths of zarkava..
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Author: gab
Timestamp:- 2/12/2008 2:56:11 PM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
Axl,
Good to see that once again you avoided the main point of my previous post and that is MC=3200m and Japan Cup=2400.
Once you get off the job, put your brain to work on that.
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 Author: Axl_Rose
Timestamp:- 1/12/2008 2:58:25 PM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
ROFL Now I have heard it all. "Not much difference between horses worldwide" thats why the Japanese ran 1-2 in the Melbourne cup on their 2nd trip down. Plod Plod off you go bag.
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Author: gab
Timestamp:- 1/12/2008 9:38:47 AM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
Axl-get a racing education. The MC is 3200m, the Japan Cup is 2400m. Purple Moon was beaten about the same distance in the Caulfield Cup last year as he was in the Japan Cup this year, both over 2400m. That makes the Japan Cup the equivalent of the Caulfield Cup. Once you guys realise that there isn't that much difference between horses around the world the better you will be on the punt.
Anyway, get back to performing the anagram of your name on Pinky.
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Author: gab
Timestamp:- 1/12/2008 9:33:20 AM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
Pinky, don't you mean the following:
"After the disgrace of this years Melbourne Cup, the Japan Cup has thrown up a similar result, showing the decline of racing world wide. The winner Screen hero was an open class horse with his best form on synthetic tracks. His last start win on grass was an open class-a bit like the SAAB Quality in Melbourne. What a joke!"
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Author: Axl_Rose
Timestamp:- 1/12/2008 12:36:22 AM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
A great advertisement for the strength and depth of japanese racing, the best international was Purple Moon in ninth, plod plod melbourne cup.
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 Author: Sinatra
Timestamp:- 30/11/2008 11:47:25 PM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
Hi all home late,
backed Deep Sky before I left home.
A few Asahi Super Dry's on board. I will wait till tomorrow to post a debrief.
Frank
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 Author: Pinkline Jones
Timestamp:- 30/11/2008 11:40:46 PM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
Count,
'Back onya bike Bozo' - Thomas Hardy will be invoicing you, posthumously, for that flash of brilliance no doubt. It's far too clever to be your own work.
PINKLINE
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Author: Pinkline Jones
Timestamp:- 30/11/2008 11:36:54 PM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
Tiggsy,
But you are usually always 'mistaken' so dry up little man. Help Daddy Chivas with his EBay stats. You can't possibly make yourself any more useless.
Plod Plod You Go
PINKLINE
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 Author: worker collective farmer
Timestamp:- 30/11/2008 11:35:57 PM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
Analogies are just for Dumb Count's liddy widdy brain. What a surprise that is. LOL LOL You're a bozo/clown/goose. Keep up the empty cliches and platitudes. Without them you have nothing.
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Author: AJDT
Timestamp:- 30/11/2008 11:25:55 PM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
Reckon the Tenno Sho run took a bit out of both Deep Sky and Vodka; they had gut-busters, and today's run could've finished them for the year.
Interesting if they back up in the Arima Kinen. If so, I'll bet against them and go for the Nakayama specialist Matsurida Gogh. He's been sparingly raced this year and today's run should top him off nicely. Stick with him bigdaddy.
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 Author: CountChivas
Timestamp:- 30/11/2008 10:28:44 PM
Subject: Re: Japan Cup
Message:
'Hear Hear, Pinkline. The guy's knows nothing about racing and just hovers round like a bad f#rt.'
Farmer,
That's a bit rich coming from a clown who wades into a breeding forum discussion about the value of Samantha Miss, and starts talking about the contractual arrangements of Herman Munster. LOL
Back onya bike bozo.
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