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Original Blog Post:

WFA, 2000m.

Who wins?

 
Author: MediaCentral
Subject: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 11/3/2019 8:59:52 PM
 
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Author: theking
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 21/3/2019 7:39:37 PM

Blog Reply:

Gladys re the horses that Winx has beaten you said:

"Unfortunately the beaten brigade were all duds."

What a goose you are!

Yes you really are living in a very CONFUSED WORLD if you genuinely believe that Highland Reel was a dud as a racehorse. Highland Reel was well beaten by Winx in a Cox Plate.

Wake up to yourself dopey, take a look at his credentials & tell me if you still really believe that he was a dud.

HIGHLAND REEL

Champion Older Horse in Ireland in 2016

(Long). Champion Older Male in Ireland in 2017

(Int.). Joint Champion Older Male in Ireland in 2017 (Long).

World Thoroughbred Ranking:

121 (in 2015)
123 (in 2016)
123 (in 2017).

 
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Author: Rex
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 21/3/2019 7:32:57 PM

Blog Reply:

Bop Bag

Sunline was a champion, but youre once again speaking nonsense.

Sunline was beaten by Jim And Tonic who rated lower than Highland Reel, the same Highland Reel that Winx destroyed like a B grade seller in the Cox Plate.

Obviously you don't rate twice Arc and Breeders Cup winner Enable, or at least her opposition.

S1lly boy.

 
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Author: theking
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 21/3/2019 6:46:57 PM

Blog Reply:

Sorry Gladys I don't agree with you.

I don't think that Chautauqua would have actually performed very well at 2000m WFA.

He was an out & out sprinter dopey!

 
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Author: gladys
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 21/3/2019 4:27:37 PM

Blog Reply:

I think you already answered this question once before, Theklown. Chautauqua! A sprinter over 1500 metres.

She is a good horse, best of her era and better than everything she has beaten. Unfortunately, the beaten brigade are all duds!

 
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Author: theking
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 21/3/2019 12:55:47 PM

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Author: theking
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 21/3/2019 12:54:58 PM

Blog Reply:

Poor Gladys, she still does not get it does she?

She does not seem to be able to comprehend or focus upon the fact that this thread is supposed to be about Winx vs Northerly 2000m at WFA. NOT Winx vs Sunline.

Poor Gladys what a very, very CONFUSED WORLD she appears to live in. She has obviously got her horses mixed up yet again just like when she previously wrote: Correction. Black Caviar not Winx.

Gladys how can you possibly get our best ever SPRINTER and our best ever MIDDLE DISTANCE WFA Star mixed up? This is totally unforgivable, even for a greenhorn NOVICE like yourself. Even an eskimo living in an igloo at the North Pole would know more than you do about our most recent AUSTRALIAN CHAMPION RACEHORSES.

In any case I will humour you yet again for the purpose of providing a gift of levity once more at your expense for all on here who love to read your blunders for the entertainment value & mirth that you provide to them.

You wrote: "Who has she beaten that would get near Sunline?"

Answer 1. Don't worry about who she beat, the FACT is that nothing has EVER beaten her at 2000m WFA
(Not even the Irish Champion Highland Reel)

I reiterate you wrote: "Who has she beaten that would get near Sunline?"

Answer 2. DAYLIGHT, DAYLIGH & more DAYLIGHT

Here are the FACTS Dopey: Winx had seven starts at 2000m WFA all G1s. She won seven out of seven 100% by an average winning margin of nearly 4 lengths.

It is an absolutely futile exercise attempting to compare Sunline to Winx at 2000m WFA there is absolutely NO comparison. Winx was well performed at 2000m WFA Sunline was NOT as the following will prove:

Sunline had four starts at 2000m WFA. She won ONLY ONE out of FOUR (25%) by an averaged winning margin / losing margin of nearly one length.

Go back to your comic books Gladys.

 
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Author: theking
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 21/3/2019 12:10:15 PM

Blog Reply:

Rex, Some interesting and very valid points you raised in your last post.

We all know that it is an UNDISPUTED FACT that history tells us that due to selective breeding, better nutrition regimes, improved training methods etc.... the thoroughbred continues to evolve as a FASTER & STONGER equine being generation after generation.

Derr, that's why race & course records set by great horses of the past continue to be broken generation after generation.

And of course we all know this to be true or else there would be records still in place set by GREAT horses in the past.

Yes they were GREAT horses in their time but it is a futile exercise to attempt to compare horse of different eras like Dopey Gladys is (however misguidedly) attempting to do.

eg. Sunline vs Winx

I agree with your: "The FACT Who holds the fastest, shall we say 3 times in the race?"

 
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Author: gladys
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 21/3/2019 8:10:04 AM

Blog Reply:

Who has she beaten that would get near Sunline?

Answer: Big fat nothing. One paced handicappers, stable mates and dud stayers.

 
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Author: Rex
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 20/3/2019 7:38:23 PM

Blog Reply:

Also curious, Northerly, Sunline and Winx all champions and all multiple winners of the Cox Plate.

Who holds the fastest, shall we say 3 times in the race?

Who holds the highest rating and at what distances?

 
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Author: Rex
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 20/3/2019 7:31:00 PM

Blog Reply:

Bop Bag

is that the same Doncaster that Winx finished 13L + in front of First Seal giving her 8lbs?

The same First Seal you continually tell us was a better horse than Winx because she beat her a few times early on when Winx was running ratings around 30lb less than what she runs now?

Just curious

 
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Author: theking
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 20/3/2019 4:07:05 PM

Blog Reply:

Gladbag, You say: "Northerly beat Sunline in two Cox Plates." I say: You have the concentration level of a flea. Isn't this thread about Winx vs Northerly?

Sorry Glabag you seem to be very confused yet again. The last time I checked Winx is NOT Sunline and Sunline is NOT Winx. Hmmm, perhaps you simply got Winx & Sunline mixed up like you did when you got Winx & Black Caviar mixed up on the Black caviar and Winx again thread.

Perhaps? No on second thoughts I am now very certain that you are simply CONFUSED yet again. This is a direct quote of what you said on that thread:
"Correction. Black caviar not Winx." Perhaps you should restrict yourself to only commenting one horse at a time in the future as you don't seem to have the concentration levels to deal with big numbers like two & three or more.

However re your "Northerly beat Sunline in two Cox Plates." comment. I will humour you for the sake of mirth for me and to afford some general entertainment value for the other posters on here who also value you as the resident FLIC& WIT. I say: By the time Sunline, now an aged (6 & 7yo mare) was being beaten by Northerly she was a shadow of her former self over 2000m at WFA. She raced only once over 2000m at WFA as a 6yo and finished second.

Similarly in her only 2000m at WFA as a 7yo she led then gave up like a pricked balloon to finish a pathetic 4th compared to her previous GREATNESS in Cox Plates in what was only a very small field.

So there we have it. It is a fact that Sunline
(IMO now a shadow of her former self) now a 6 & 7yo aged mare lacked her previous ability as she could no longer win a 2000m WFA race anymore. And The FACT is that this once GREAT mare could now only manage to win one race out of four races of any description (25%) as an aged 7yo mare. This once GREAT mare who was pathetically beaten by three other horses in her final Cox Plate was ready for retirement and was justifiably retired soon after. Two starts prior to this dismal fourth in her last Cox Plate she could NOT even win a Group 2 race!

Gladrag, you also said: Northerly won a Caulfield Cup and the following week won the Cox Plate. Again you seem very confused Gladrag. However I am more than happy to educate a poor uneducated novice such as yourself. The Caulfield Cup is actually a 2400m handicap race NOT a 2000m WFA race. It has been a 2400m handicap race, rather than a 2000m WFA race, for a very, very long time. Perhaps you better check with your Mum or somebody else that helps care for you. And by the way I know that you are not very good with big numbers but 2400m is much longer than 2000m.

What the hell is the relevance of bringing up Northerly beating Sunline in a 2400m Handicap race when we are supposed to be debating Winx vs Northerly at WFA over 2000m? Gees Gladbag, Again you seem very, very CONFUSED with all this. Do you actually even know the difference between a Handicap race and a WFA race?

Come on be honest, there is no shame in being an ignorant novice I am happy to explain the different concepts to you provided that you grovel enough to me.

 
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Author: gladys
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 20/3/2019 8:51:46 AM

Blog Reply:

Northerly beat Sunline in two Cox Plates. Northerly won a Caulfield Cup and the following week won the Cox Plate.

Tell me, Theklown, name one horse that Winx has encountered that could beat Sunline. Just one will do!

After that question does your head in, tell me how Winx went in any Caulfield Cup or for that matter, any major handicap. Dont bother with those two weak miles at Randwick where she had 56.5 with a limit of 51. If you do, have a look at Sunline's weight and her limit.

Go back to reading the Australian Stud Book and learn a little bit more before coming on here and confirming what everyone already knows about you.

 
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Author: theking
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 20/3/2019 12:30:37 AM

Blog Reply:

Cop this all you Northerly fans:

Northerly was beaten in 18 of his 37 starts (49%) by 16 different horses.

He was beaten 8/16 times by horses that NEVER EVER went on to win a Group one race in their entire racing careers (50%).

Four out of the 16 horses that beat Northerly NEVER EVER won a Stakes race in their entire racing careers.

Thus far, Winx has been beaten in 6 of her 41 starts (15%) by 4 different horses.

Winx was beaten 1/41 times by horses that NEVER EVER won a Group one race in their entire racing careers (2.44%). The one horse referred to that beat Winx and did not win a Group 1, was a Group 2 winner.

Four out of the four different horses that beat Winx were all Stakes winners during their racing careers. (100%).

 
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Author: gladys
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 19/3/2019 9:39:13 AM

Blog Reply:

I note from your ramblings Tufnel that you gave us the list of horses you backed on Saturday. It was not just a few, but the actual list.

Your brilliance has landed you the quaddie and the Big 6, all achieved by only having to select one horse in each leg. I marvel at your knowledge of going from short priced favourites to isolating a 21/1 shot and taking it one out.

I think this all happened. However, all of a sudden your alarm clock went off and you woke up, muttering to yourself, "what a great dream, if only it was true!".

 
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Author: theking
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 18/3/2019 10:17:00 PM

Blog Reply:

Hey all you Northerly fans cop this.

To the best of my knowledge:

Winx thus far has had seven starts in G1 WFA races over 2000m for seven wins. This ia a 100% success rate.

Winx has never been beaten in a G1 WFA race over 2000m!

Northerly also had seven starts in G1 WFA races over 2000m for only five wins. This is a 71% success rate.

Further to this Northerly ran second in each of these 2000m WFA races where he was beaten. And in both cases he was beaten by horses that only ever won one G1 WFA races over 2000m in their entire racing careers. That is the only time that they ever won a G1 WFA races over 2000m was when they had the opportunity to beat Northerly.

The subject horses who beat Northerly were Old Comrade & Republic Lass.

Winx vs Northerly, 2000m at WFA?

As the Yanks say: Do the math 100% : 71%

There is NO comparison. Winx wins hands down!

 
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Author: Khaptingly
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 18/3/2019 8:07:34 PM

Blog Reply:

Better still, I’ll leave you with a list of the horses I backed last Saturday before the race, the full and complete list :

Melbourne:
Swift Sis (win only)
Causeway Girl (win only)
Widgee Turf (win only)


Sydney:
Verry Elleegant (win only)
Dixie Blossons (e/w)

5 bets, 5 winners. Simply the best, better than all the rest.


How did I go?

 
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Author: gladys
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 17/3/2019 10:33:33 AM

Blog Reply:

I think you excelled at reading the results and then imagining which bets you would have had at Fantasy TAB!

 
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Author: nigeltufnel
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 16/3/2019 8:39:46 PM

Blog Reply:

How come nobody wants to answer the pathetic ridiculous challenge you and glad bag (and I notice you’ve resurrected your third nonsensical alias Fairlystup!d) have created?

I’ll give you a clue or two. You said Australian racing is a disgrace. You said Australian racing is corrupt. Yet you still front up on here desperate for someone to answer your nonsensical diatribe.

I know what I think you are. I reckon a few others agree. Phonetically, it goes like this: eye, dee, eye, oh, tea.

I had a good laugh early in the week when you and one or two of your aliases leapt on here gleeful in the fact that one of my favourite horses didn’t win the Newmarket Handicap (yes, handicap) first up with 58.5kg. More proof of your (lack of) anything remotely associated with Logic.

The funniest thing about all this is that you, your missus and any other sycophant/alias you care to call on seriously think your opinion or condemnation means anything to the rest of us.

In conclusion, I’ll leave you with a list of the horses I backed today:

Melbourne:
Talented
El Don (e/w)
Hartnell (e/w)
Spirit of Aquada (e/w)

Sydney:
Star of the Seas
Trekking
Athiri
Cosmic Force
Verry Elleegant
Red Cardinal
Dixie Blossons (e/w)
Fifty Stars
Supernova


How did I go?

Nige ;-)

 
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Author: Rex
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 15/3/2019 1:10:25 AM

Blog Reply:

One mistake K Dill?

You just made a mistake in this forum when you said Highland Reel didn't run to his best form against Winx when he ran a then career high mark!!! You couldn't make it up.

It was you who then diverted to your laying, not me champ.

 
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Author: maccamax
Subject: Re: Winx vs Northerly

Time: 14/3/2019 9:16:12 PM

Blog Reply:

I always felt Northerly was one of our most underrated Horses. He could run the sectionals off a slow pace, or put up a course record if necessary.

Admittedly, he was no match for Winx, but he was a good conveyance against some smart ones of his time.

We have our share of handy gallopers past & present,   enjoy them, even if they don't shine in these boring 3200m welters.

 
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